Former President Barack Obama said a way forward for the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is only possible if people acknowledge the “complexity” of the situation.

“If there’s any chance of us being able to act constructively to do something, it will require an admission of complexity and maintaining what on the surface may seem contradictory ideas that what Hamas did was horrific, and there’s no justification for it. And … that the occupation and what’s happening to Palestinians is unbearable,” Obama said in an interview on the podcast “Pod Save America.”

The former president’s comments come as the Israeli military focuses its offensive against Hamas in Gaza City and northern parts of the enclave.

  • Thief_of_Crows@sh.itjust.works
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    Because the truth is that Israel is WAY worse than Palestine. They’re openly calling for genocide. Resistance to oppression is good, actually, and so basically whatever Palestine does while still being oppressed is morally fine, while Israel continuing to oppress them is not. Anything anybody says criticizing palestine’s reaction to oppression is whataboutism, because they’re literally the victims of genocide.

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      Hamas is openly calling for genocide too, and they’ve been doing it longer than Israel.

      Also, funny story, Israel is also literally the victims of genocide, (the Holocaust?), which is why their motto is “never again”.

      There is no “way worse”, just ignorant keyboard warriors, and a shitty situation made worse by shitty people.

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        Israel are the beneficiaries of the Holocaust.

        Literally, the major bump in population they experienced as a result of WWII was Jews who were able to go through a Nazi/Israel visa program to transfer them and their money. Like Hitler was planning to send them to Madagascar after he seized France, and then Israel reached out to him and negotiated a deal for him to send them settlers.

        This agreement was seen as such a “success” the Roma (who unfortunately had a bit of a fascist sympathizing streak at the time) wanted to strike a similar agreement with Mussolini when he invaded Egypt to get their own “Israel” along the Red Sea coast.

        The actual place most of the post war victims went to was to America where Jews had found success developing community safety via integration with surrounding communities.

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        Do you think the Holocaust means that the descendents of it’s victims can’t be genociders themselves? It altyally makes more sense, when you consider the cycle of abuse. Israel has been genociding Palestine for longer than Hamas has even existed, so no, that’s false.

        Israel is way worse than Palestine, and you are the ignorant one if you disagree based entirely on the US/Israeli propaganda you’ve seen. You should research this yourself if you don’t believe me. Would you rather be right, or correct?

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          You said:

          Anything anybody says criticizing palestine’s reaction to oppression is whataboutism, because they’re literally the victims of genocide.

          I’m saying: you’re an idiot with mental retardation if you think that that “because” means anything, since BOTH SIDES are victims of genocide.

          Either you’re a holocaust denier, (and my diagnosis of you stands) or you’re just a plain old idiot with mental retardation who isn’t a holocaust denier, and is just stupid.

          Israel is way worse

          I’m not getting involved in the “who was worse” game. Worse doesn’t justify anything, you idiot.

          You should research this yourself

          Found the retarded sovcit / anti-vaxxer/ russian worshipper.

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            No, they are not both victims of genocide. One side is doing genocide (Israel), and the other would very much like to kill all the people genociding them. If you disagree, go look at deaths data over the last 30 years. Palestinians are 90% of the deaths.

            Doing genocide justifies getting killed for doing genocide. And I’m a Russia worshipper because I told you to verify the facts you believe? Okay cool, I’m not going to continue wasting my time on a trolll then

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              No, they are not both victims of genocide.

              I think we’ve all learnt all we need to learn about you right here.

              Now you can fuck off to whatever nazi hole you crawled out of and never come back, please and thank you.