Nah, he’s neutral evil since he both breaks the law when he wants to and exploits it when he can.
Aa law isn’t inherently good or evil, that axis doesn’t have anything to do with HOW evil he is.
In fact, I’d argue that, in a world where some laws (like “don’t murder” and “don’t enslave your workers”) are good but others (like “you don’t have equal rights if you’re any kind of minority or a woman” or “corporations have all of the rights of people and none of the responsibilities”) are inherently oppressive, the only consistently GOOD alignment is Neutral Good.
The chaotic good alignment isn’t any less good because they can simply follow the just laws and break the unjust laws. They might resent the institution of law, but they aren’t obliged to do the opposite of the law, they just will do it for their own reasons instead of the legality. They’re still fundamentally good.
A lawful good character would probably prefer legal methods to fight legal injustice, while a chaotic good character might prefer to break the law as they don’t see legal methods as worth anything/don’t recognize its authority. Both are Good, but they might use different methods when confronted with the same problem.
Maybe I’m confused what you mean. Being opposed to the concept of laws doesn’t mean you need to break them; you can still think “people shouldn’t murder” or “slavery is bad”. I don’t think incidentally following laws makes you not Chaotic. You just don’t care what the law is; you’d be doing the same thing regardless of whether it was the law or not.
Besides, I’m not sure “opposed to the concept of laws” is really true for all but the most extreme examples of CG. It seems like its more about wanting freedom than just hating laws themselves.
Being opposed to the concept of laws doesn’t mean you need to break them
True, but being opposed to the concept of laws means that you’re more inclined to break laws to achieve your aims than to work within the law.
Chaotic in this context means that you consider the very concept of law an impediment to justice whereas “do good things regardless of whether they’re lawful or illegal” kind of behavior you’re ascribing to chaotic good is the textbook definition of NEUTRAL good.
Besides, I’m not sure “opposed to the concept of laws” is really true for all but the most extreme examples of CG
There’s vast differences of scale, sure, but lawful - neutral - chaotic is about your relationship with laws as a concept that governs the actions of people for better or worse.
It seems like its more about wanting freedom than just hating laws themselves.
Nah, freedom and law aren’t inherently in opposition to each other.
Sure, some laws restrict your freedom to do certain things that lawmakers want to discourage for one reason or the other, but some other laws are there to PROTECT your freedom to do other things deemed desirable or value neutral.
Just like some laws existing to protect consumers from being exploited by corporations and others existing to protect corporations from the consumers they exploit doesn’t make “law” and “exploitation” synonyms or antonyms.
Trump is Chaotic Evil.
Nah, he’s neutral evil since he both breaks the law when he wants to and exploits it when he can.
Aa law isn’t inherently good or evil, that axis doesn’t have anything to do with HOW evil he is.
In fact, I’d argue that, in a world where some laws (like “don’t murder” and “don’t enslave your workers”) are good but others (like “you don’t have equal rights if you’re any kind of minority or a woman” or “corporations have all of the rights of people and none of the responsibilities”) are inherently oppressive, the only consistently GOOD alignment is Neutral Good.
The chaotic good alignment isn’t any less good because they can simply follow the just laws and break the unjust laws. They might resent the institution of law, but they aren’t obliged to do the opposite of the law, they just will do it for their own reasons instead of the legality. They’re still fundamentally good.
A lawful good character would probably prefer legal methods to fight legal injustice, while a chaotic good character might prefer to break the law as they don’t see legal methods as worth anything/don’t recognize its authority. Both are Good, but they might use different methods when confronted with the same problem.
That would be the very definition of NG, not CG.
No, but they’re actively opposed to the very concept of laws. That’s what “chaotic” means in this context.
Maybe I’m confused what you mean. Being opposed to the concept of laws doesn’t mean you need to break them; you can still think “people shouldn’t murder” or “slavery is bad”. I don’t think incidentally following laws makes you not Chaotic. You just don’t care what the law is; you’d be doing the same thing regardless of whether it was the law or not.
Besides, I’m not sure “opposed to the concept of laws” is really true for all but the most extreme examples of CG. It seems like its more about wanting freedom than just hating laws themselves.
True, but being opposed to the concept of laws means that you’re more inclined to break laws to achieve your aims than to work within the law.
Chaotic in this context means that you consider the very concept of law an impediment to justice whereas “do good things regardless of whether they’re lawful or illegal” kind of behavior you’re ascribing to chaotic good is the textbook definition of NEUTRAL good.
There’s vast differences of scale, sure, but lawful - neutral - chaotic is about your relationship with laws as a concept that governs the actions of people for better or worse.
Nah, freedom and law aren’t inherently in opposition to each other.
Sure, some laws restrict your freedom to do certain things that lawmakers want to discourage for one reason or the other, but some other laws are there to PROTECT your freedom to do other things deemed desirable or value neutral.
Just like some laws existing to protect consumers from being exploited by corporations and others existing to protect corporations from the consumers they exploit doesn’t make “law” and “exploitation” synonyms or antonyms.