Leave it like this (well replace the asphalt for nice tiles) and you’ll actually get more people to come by and stay for a coffee, use the stores, etc…
They probably still need a serviceable road for deliveries. Probably no alley. Trucks can be heavy as for efficiency they load them up. Can’t use tile roads, they don’t hold up over time.
Yeah, you need service roads. In the Netherlands they have the city center streets completely blocked off from traffic, only bicycles and pedestrians are allowed.
Once a day, usually 7-9 am, a hydrolic pole will lower at the entrances, allowing small supply trucks in to supply the stores. These trucks will have two hours to get their business done and leave. If the poles go up before they’re out, no worries, they can be lowered on demand for special circumstances or will just auto lower from the inside, not the outside.
Also only small delivery trucks are allowed. I’m in Vancouver and I’m amazed how they sometimes use trailer trucks in the fucking city center. What is wrong with you? You don’t need enormous trucks, literally.
In the Netherlands, all centers gave tile roads and it isn’t a problem because we use smaller trucks there.
The result is predictable. The city centers are amazing, everyone loves them, and ita always crowded like hell because these are human spaces, not car spaces
Car spaces are awful, dangerous and nobody wants to be there. Make human spaces!
It depends on the type of tiles you use. Paris has a lot of tiled roads in pedestrian centric areas, they’ve been there for decades and are not more damaged than asphalt. They’re changed every 15 years or so, from my experience living with a neigbborhood like this nearby.
Every 15 years is terrible for road length, you’re kinda proving my point. Costly replacement too. It just doesn’t work for any type of road that needs to carry loads.
Or any place with extreme weather, or a lot of rain, or etc.
Shops can use a rug, there’s lot more efficient, durable and less costly options that provide the same or better.
They break, and they’re ugly from wear. They’re worn because they’re not the right material for the use case. And no one wants to cart a hand dolly on broken tile. You’re really doing a fantastic job giving more reasons why tile shouldn’t be used when heavy loads are anticipated……
And yet the trend in cities like Paris is to move to these type of roads instead of asphalt… You should call them, tell them they’re wasting their money
The after picture looks so much more welcoming, clean, and active. Like the place is suddenly more alive.
Leave it like this (well replace the asphalt for nice tiles) and you’ll actually get more people to come by and stay for a coffee, use the stores, etc…
They probably still need a serviceable road for deliveries. Probably no alley. Trucks can be heavy as for efficiency they load them up. Can’t use tile roads, they don’t hold up over time.
Okay, a few things to unpack here.
Yeah, you need service roads. In the Netherlands they have the city center streets completely blocked off from traffic, only bicycles and pedestrians are allowed.
Once a day, usually 7-9 am, a hydrolic pole will lower at the entrances, allowing small supply trucks in to supply the stores. These trucks will have two hours to get their business done and leave. If the poles go up before they’re out, no worries, they can be lowered on demand for special circumstances or will just auto lower from the inside, not the outside.
Also only small delivery trucks are allowed. I’m in Vancouver and I’m amazed how they sometimes use trailer trucks in the fucking city center. What is wrong with you? You don’t need enormous trucks, literally.
In the Netherlands, all centers gave tile roads and it isn’t a problem because we use smaller trucks there.
The result is predictable. The city centers are amazing, everyone loves them, and ita always crowded like hell because these are human spaces, not car spaces
Car spaces are awful, dangerous and nobody wants to be there. Make human spaces!
Timed deliveries.
Yes they do it at night, but they still need some road that can handle the load. Tile just doesn’t hold up.
The black road isn’t tiled?
That is clearly asphalt
The user I responded to suggested to replace it with tile, I was providing a few reasons why it couldn’t be.
It depends on the type of tiles you use. Paris has a lot of tiled roads in pedestrian centric areas, they’ve been there for decades and are not more damaged than asphalt. They’re changed every 15 years or so, from my experience living with a neigbborhood like this nearby.
Every 15 years is terrible for road length, you’re kinda proving my point. Costly replacement too. It just doesn’t work for any type of road that needs to carry loads.
Or any place with extreme weather, or a lot of rain, or etc.
Tiles aren’t for heavy traffic.
Sure, but that doesn’t make them not viable for pedestrian centric areas. The point isn’t durability or low cost, it’s enjoying a city center.
And they’re not replaced because they’re broken, they’re replaced because they turn ugly.
Shops can use a rug, there’s lot more efficient, durable and less costly options that provide the same or better.
They break, and they’re ugly from wear. They’re worn because they’re not the right material for the use case. And no one wants to cart a hand dolly on broken tile. You’re really doing a fantastic job giving more reasons why tile shouldn’t be used when heavy loads are anticipated……
And yet the trend in cities like Paris is to move to these type of roads instead of asphalt… You should call them, tell them they’re wasting their money
Because they likely have alleys that delivery vans go down, I already addressed that in my first comment ;)
It’s almost like people probably are using g the best material for the situation since you know, they live there and designed it =D
Being a smart ass doesn’t work when your “opinion” was already covered by the person you responded to.
But small businesses will suffer if people have nowhere to park 😡
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It just looks sweaty and smelly to me. Why all the tarmac when it’s been explicitly and expensively rebuilt for a new purpose?
Because it’s probably still a road (even its road markings are new), and they just closed that section for some pedestrian event.