• BlanketsWithSmallpox@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    All of society runs on the underlying threat of violence/force… From staving off wars, to enforcing our laws. It all requires people to be cajoled into being good/better under the threat of punishment. Usually through isolation from the rest of society, or straight up violence.

    That threat of force is given to the government on behalf of the authority and consent of the governed. If they continue to abuse it, then it’s only on the governed to establish that change themselves. Either through political violence, or by changing the politicians / laws.

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    19 hours ago

    ARTHUR: The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water signifying by Divine Providence that I, Arthur, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king!

    DENNIS: Listen – strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

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      “Both”? Brother, there are way more than 2 Barbie movies. Waaaaaaay more.

      The Barbie: Life in the Dreamhouse show is way better than you would expect it to be. Like not “good” necessarily but fun.

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      2023 Barbie is nowhere near based, it feels like a half baked apology from Mattel, who happens to be the ones which forced unrealistic body types over women for a whole century

      Honestly, not a good movie either, can’t recall rn but I feel like 25% of it was about mattel corpo propaganda.

      Some of it was fun though. I liked the flashy songs

      • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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        I get where you’re coming from, but the new Barbie film was pretty based if you take a step back and examine it as a whole. I mean the whole Ken takeover of the Barbie village is strangely prophetic, given the whole trump takeover (so happy my small town had the biggest protest I’ve ever seen from her yesterday!) and the snippet about Margot explaining what fascism means. And this is coming from a 6’6 270lbs. Cis het ally with a shaved head and fairly thick beard. I enjoyed it for what it was. Yeah it’s no citizen Kane, but it definitely hit higher than it’s weight class.

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    22 hours ago

    No system can achieve consensus consent of the governed. All governments maintain authority through a monopoly on violence.

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      22 hours ago

      No systems that rely on and encourage centralization and concentration. Systems exist. They don’t educate us about them purposefully.

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        Show me literally one ever.

        Any government relies on a monopoly of violence, because some minority will not consent to rule. Lenient systems will settle towards “don’t kill, cook, and eat your neighbors,” some will settle towards total subjugation of their constituents.

        If not prevented with violence, new violent power structures will form spontaneously.

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            What “anarchistic structure” has derived authority exclusively through consent, and done so without allowing other violent power structures to form?

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              Unless you can tell me of any structure that has succeeded in that. That is an irrelevant question

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                “allow” as in permit or not address… Obviously no structure is 100% successful at eliminating opposition, but without the monopoly of violence any government becomes usurped by another body that is willing to exert force.

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                  No one should have a monopoly of anything beyond their own person/labor/property. Much less violence. Jesus Christ, you’re literally arguing for most of the issues with modern systems unironically.

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                  Anarchism doesn’t mean the absence of force.

                  Just as tolerance cannot exist if those who are intolerant are tolerated. Those who violate the similar social agreement to consent. Forgo consent.

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      fascist rhetoric

      Did you actually read this link? All it says is some Roman philosopher coined the term. The rest is very shallow editorial from the author about Jesus or something. The modern understanding of the phrase derives from European enlightenment philosophy which was the principle which rejected monarchy and feudalism.

      Like my dude, it’s ok to be critical of modernity without cynically rejecting all of its first principles.

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        I did, and the philosophy as it evolved.

        Choosing to be governed at all is the raw rhetoric fascism derives it’s narrative upon.

        In that same movie, Woody and his comrades find a new home to be loved for who they are; not by Sunny Daycare Parliament.

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      Too bad The Disney was a well known Nazi sympathizer, but I saw the mattel logo everywhere one time visiting the PGA club(yes That PGA) and thought to myself “why would a toy company be holding a conference in possibly the most expensive club imaginable? It must be something else!” But no, it was that mattel. Now ask yourself who they are all voting for!

      I’ll give you two guesses which major party the vast vast majority support. If you get it right the first time you win, if you get it right the second time then you’re fucking delusional.