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Only 17% of Arab American voters say they will vote for Biden in 2024, according to a new poll.
Only 17% of Arab American voters say they will vote for Biden in 2024, according to a new poll.
Those comments make me so angry. There is a genocide being perpetrated on Arabs in Palestine, and Biden is actively defending it. It should be absolutely no surprise that Muslims and Arabs are not going to vote for a genocide denying turd actively trying to fund and arm the perpetrator.
For real, Democratic administrations can’t go and have whatever abhorrent policies, including actively supporting an ethnic cleansing, and turn around and go “the other guy is worse, actually. And if YOU don’t vote for us it’s YOUR fault if this country devolves into fascism”
That is not what a functioning democracy looks like.
The USA has not had a functioning democracy in a very long time.
I would argue never
Someone just replied to me saying exactly that. Bravo!
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There’s your reason right there, everything else literally doesn’t matter. Would you be surprised if a Jewish person didn’t vote for a Holocaust enabler, even if the alternative was someone else who was even more antisemitic?
I also don’t see where you’re getting Muslims are going to vote for trump from, they’re just going to stay home. This is what democrats are best at, blowing minority support because they lack a backbone. If Muslims will suffer either way, why should they even participate?
“Vote blue no matter who” is a moot point to many people, particularly minorities, who will continue to suffer either way. Biden is supporting the murder of Muslims, how could they stomach bubbling his dumbass zionist name on election day?
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First off:
I’m a zionist - Biden himself, literally
Second: It shouldn’t be hard to understand that Muslims want to send a message, a Biden loss would result in introspection in the democratic party (if they have the wherewithal, highly doubtful)
Third: Plenty of Jewish people particularly in America do not unconditionally support Israel as Biden has. All he had to do is force humanitarian aid through in return for further aid. Which would allow the least amount of anger from both sides.
Instead he has decided to completely ignore the very legitimate grievances of one side while fully endorsing the other. Which is exactly what the GOP does, do they enjoy wide Jewish support?
Lastly:
Thanks for discussing this in good faith by calling my reasonable grievances “extremist rhetoric”. This is exactly what is alienating Muslims. Perfectly proving the point.
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Yes, we do want to punish Biden. It’s that simple, he is allowing and chaperoning the starvation of millions of our people. Over half of whom are children! Everyone should be angry at Biden’s decisions and role in this current conflict. Why would we not want justice in the form of his loss?
I can assure you that we’d rather suffer here in the form of discrimination (which happens either way, all throughout my childhood post-9/11 in particular), over the continued suffering of our brothers and sisters in Palestine, Yemen, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, and Iran through continued US hegemony in the region. I’d rather continue to be treated as a second class citizen, with a full belly and a roof over my head, then let people far worse off than me face horrors behind comprehension. A Trump victory would weaken America not strengthen it.
Muslims know what we must do to ensure our people get the peace that they deserve as human beings. If that means sacrificing domestic comfort, then so be it.
“Vote blue no matter who” types should keep on talking down to and patronizing Muslims on geopolitics, Black Americans on police violence, and leftists on corporate overreach. That has totally worked out well in the past 🙄
All politicians must earn the support of their constituents. America will fall regardless of a republican victory, because our democracy will suffer either way. Specifically because of the morons who vote for politicians even after they stab them in the back.
I would love to see Trump try and deport the millions of Americans who are citizens. His immigration ban failed for a reason, and citizens have far greater protections.
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Honestly, they aren’t any better than the Bernie Bros. Changing your vote to Trump because Bernie didn’t win means that you don’t give a shit about policy or issues. No one who actually supported Bernie policies would have ever voted for Trump.
Typical Republican voter thought honestly. I will vote in line with what hurts me the most because it will hurt this one person right there and damned anyone else that sinks in the ship with me.
You lost me where you insinuated I care more about my comfort than theirs. I absolutely do not, “a full belly and a roof over my head” refers to the fact that I am in a better position than them. I can bear it with more ease than them. It will never be as bad for Muslims in America as it is for the Palestinians right now. If you don’t understand that, then you do not know what they are going through. I’d rather be the one starving and homeless, not them. Especially not those innocent children who did nothing wrong other than exist.
That’s besides the point though, you can fixate on me all you want. This thread is referring to muslim voters, not me. The fact stands that Biden’s position on Israel is threatening his chances in 2024. Period. I’m not discussing this any further. You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about and continuously misinterpret my words and derail the conversation.
You won’t change my mind and I won’t change yours. There’s nothing to discuss when you very clearly have no intention of ever understanding the point of view of Muslims.
Edit: and as far as the rest of your drivel. I was born and raised here. I know the pain and suffering of the people who live where my parents came from. I visit my family there often. I know far better than you how lucky I was to be born here and live here currently. I love this country and its people. You and I just disagree on the best course of action. America’s global policies must change for lasting global peace at home and abroad. Don’t forget that America’s policies in Israel were a direct “casus belli” for 9/11. Over 3000 of our people died for a country thousands of miles away that doesn’t even value the life of a child. Without a drastic change, America will not continue to be the country we know and love.
It’s the difference between a “genocide enabler” and a “genocide enacter”. It should be clear which is even the smallest bit worse.
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You realize that Trump and the Maga cult will do the same exact thing right? Evangelicals think Isreal has to be there for their rapture to occur? They also pump the military industrial complex more so than democrats do but you think voting for the literal Christian Fascist will end better for Arab populations? And not voting just gives more power to trump. Honestly I get there is a lot of emotion here but you can’t be that fucking stupid and short sited right? I hate what’s going on but we still live in a dual party system and unless you genocide half the US population that’s not gonna change anytime soon. Maybe in 2028 if all unions can get their contracts to align and effectively create a general strike legally we could finally see some change but it takes time.
Jesus Christ.
Everyone knows that Trump sucks more.
Both are zionists, both enable genocide, both treat Muslims as second class citizens. Muslims are dehumanized, ignored, and suffer either way.
Nobody’s vote is a guarantee, what part of that is so hard to understand?
Not voting for Biden, is not voting for Trump, it’s sending a message to democrats that their position is untenable and needs to be revised. You can pretend all you want that all Americans have the luxury of voting for a lesser evil. That option does not exist for Muslims after October 7th.
I absolutely will never vote for a psychopath that enables the starvation of over a million of children. Regardless of who those children are, regardless of what political positions are held by that individual.
Don’t blame Muslims when Biden loses. Blame Biden for making 1.8 billion people, including millions of Americans, hate him so much they would sacrifice anything to see him lose.
No I will because we have billions starving all over the globe, genocides in China, Russians trying to take over Ukraine and destabilize our governments and you are just happily playing along because you do not understand you not voting is fucking voting. You are not making a point by ensuring we go into fascism, you are actively enabling fascism. I blame religions in general for where we are today and people’s lack of ability to realize they are complete bullshit. How many more may die of your inaction? If Biden wins and we make sure we vote in proper representatives, then we can still work to better the situation he isn’t a fuckikg dictator like trump wants to be if you just throw up your hands and let democracy die there is no chance at aiding this situation or making it better. You are eating into the right wing propaganda that causes you to vote against your interest but go off on how you aren’t being an enabler. Fucking idiots this world is filled with, absolute morons.
The simple fact is that Biden and his administration can immediately provide relief to millions of innocent people by forcing Israel to allow humanitarian aid and a humanitarian ceasefire in exchange for further US funding, as opposed to the carte blanche funding, support, and military aid we are currently giving to them as they ethnically cleanse gaza.
All of the other problems are out of Biden’s reach, he can’t stop the genocide of the Uyghur people, he can’t force Russia to give up, and he can’t feed the “billions” starving around the globe.
If censoring Palestinian and American Muslim voices and actively chaperoning a genocide isn’t fascist to you, then I don’t think you understand the term.
Congratulations then on enabling an even worse psychopath to take office and hurt even more children around the globe through his decisions. You’re deciding that whatever happens under Trump vs whatever happens under Biden doesn’t matter to you, it’ll be the same. I’m not pleased with Biden here either, but if Republicans gain power, a lot more people are going to suffer.
Not making a choice is still making a choice. You don’t want to actively vote for a lesser evil, so you pick the option that may enable an even greater evil. It’s a myth that when there’s two lesser evils, you can choose to pick none – because that in itself is a lesser evil.
Frankly. It’s selfish. You don’t want to dirty your conscience, and you’re content to let a lot more children die and experience hardship because of it.