Bytemeister didn’t say they don’t have to do any direct action. You made that up out of nothing.
You have to do both. That’s what Bytemeister is saying. If you didn’t vote, and you’re not actively in rebellion, then claiming you’re the side who does direct action is an obvious lie. And they’re right, you are lying. You’re tanking our chances of overthrowing the government through revolution.
if not (voted for Harris) and not (actively out in the streets)
then (no respect for you)
And requires that both conditions are true. So if you voted for Harris, then at most one condition is true, and Bytemeister’s respect for you remains at its current level.
Yeah, if you voted for Harris, then you’re not actively fucking up the revolution by making the secret police bolder, so you don’t have to make up for it by hucking bricks at ICE. You’ve proven that you have the long term thinking required to participate in organisation through safer methods like unionising, rallying, helping organise, weapons training, and recruiting.
But if someone didn’t vote for bullshit reasons, they let Trump escalate the ICE deportations and concentration camps. They made things harder for the revolution. They’re not a useful member and they should go remove themself from the situation with a glorious final stand.
Lol revolutions have happened in far worse political climates than Trump. You’re delusional if you think a worsening social situation makes revolutions less likely or “fucking up”.
As the person you’re replying to said, the original argument made is that it’s enough to vote to maintain their respect. Therefore they’re not doing anything else.
Now fuck off from anarchist spaces with your moralizing about useless electoralism. You have the rest of lemmy for that shite.
Your post is moralising about electoralism. It’s just moralising against electoralism. And it’s a useless waste of my and other anarchists’ time. Infighting over pointless bullshit instead of talking about direct action. Complaining about the anarchists who do things you don’t like one day a year isn’t getting us any closer to a revolution.
Electoralism isn’t about 1 day a year. There’s immense amount of volunteer resources and time wasted on this farce in the previous years. And the more we pretend electoralism is useful, the more justified they feel in wasting those resources.
And my post is just a meme. You don’t have to “waste your time” on it.
First of all, fuck all the way off with that comparison.
Second You can take it as serious as you want. I earnestly mean what I say in it unlike cowardly fash who claim they’re only joking when called out on it. What I’m saying is that nobody is forcing you to start arguments about it, so if you feel you’re wasting your time, don’t do it.
I don’t want you to waste anyone’s time with pointless infighting, and if you think I should only care about the value of my own time, I’ve got some books for you to read about how European-American individualism is wrong and people should care about others.
Bytemeister didn’t say they don’t have to do any direct action. You made that up out of nothing.
You have to do both. That’s what Bytemeister is saying. If you didn’t vote, and you’re not actively in rebellion, then claiming you’re the side who does direct action is an obvious lie. And they’re right, you are lying. You’re tanking our chances of overthrowing the government through revolution.
And requires that both conditions are true. So if you voted for Harris, then at most one condition is true, and Bytemeister’s respect for you remains at its current level.
Yeah, if you voted for Harris, then you’re not actively fucking up the revolution by making the secret police bolder, so you don’t have to make up for it by hucking bricks at ICE. You’ve proven that you have the long term thinking required to participate in organisation through safer methods like unionising, rallying, helping organise, weapons training, and recruiting.
But if someone didn’t vote for bullshit reasons, they let Trump escalate the ICE deportations and concentration camps. They made things harder for the revolution. They’re not a useful member and they should go remove themself from the situation with a glorious final stand.
no one has stopped that. everyone let that happen.
Lol revolutions have happened in far worse political climates than Trump. You’re delusional if you think a worsening social situation makes revolutions less likely or “fucking up”.
As the person you’re replying to said, the original argument made is that it’s enough to vote to maintain their respect. Therefore they’re not doing anything else.
Now fuck off from anarchist spaces with your moralizing about useless electoralism. You have the rest of lemmy for that shite.
Your post is moralising about electoralism. It’s just moralising against electoralism. And it’s a useless waste of my and other anarchists’ time. Infighting over pointless bullshit instead of talking about direct action. Complaining about the anarchists who do things you don’t like one day a year isn’t getting us any closer to a revolution.
Electoralism isn’t about 1 day a year. There’s immense amount of volunteer resources and time wasted on this farce in the previous years. And the more we pretend electoralism is useful, the more justified they feel in wasting those resources.
And my post is just a meme. You don’t have to “waste your time” on it.
I thought claiming nobody has to take their jokes seriously was a conservative thing
Lol, you’re a little bitch, aintcha?
“This is a waste of mine and others time!!!”
Lol, ok, it’s a meme, who cares?
“You sound just like a conservative!!!”
First of all, fuck all the way off with that comparison.
Second You can take it as serious as you want. I earnestly mean what I say in it unlike cowardly fash who claim they’re only joking when called out on it. What I’m saying is that nobody is forcing you to start arguments about it, so if you feel you’re wasting your time, don’t do it.
But then again, as I said at the start, fuck you.
I don’t want you to waste anyone’s time with pointless infighting, and if you think I should only care about the value of my own time, I’ve got some books for you to read about how European-American individualism is wrong and people should care about others.
Case in point