• callouscomic@lemm.ee
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    3 days ago

    You act like thisnis the first time. They’ve had their chances. I live in rural places and near a lot of farmers and small town people. They fly their fucking flags and espoused their unfounded bullshit and never show any ability to change or learn.

    Not all farmers. Not everyone. But there’s certainly a lot I am done wasting breath on. Fuck em.

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      3 days ago

      So you willingly abandon your working class solidarity and just become another small minded person spreading working class hate and division. You’re part of the problem.

      I too live in a small rural town. I’m deep in the heart of Southern Louisiana. I’m all too familiar with people flying their flags of ignorance and hate.

      That doesn’t give you an excuse to sink to their level of blind hatred because it is easier than seeing the person behind it and understanding that they are as much a victim of the system as anyone else.

      • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 days ago

        Are you aware of the term scab in the union world? One doesn’t forgive a scab.

        This situation is no different.

        You cannot have solidarity with people who will betray you. You are part of the problem. They are part of the problem. People not allowing themselves to be fooled are not.

      • Stabbitha@lemmy.world
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        3 days ago

        I’ll exhibit “working class solidarity” the second they stop selling out the working class.

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        What the fuck solidarity is there in siding with the very people trying to strip away the working class? They had the same access to information as anybody else and they chose to ignore the warnings and double down.

        Form solidarity with the ones who aren’t actively trying to ruin everything, because the zombies have made it very clear whose side they’re on.

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        Where is their solidarity with the working class? It is nowhere to be seen. They hate solidarity. They piss on it. They deliberately voted against it. And now they cry crocodiles tears when they become victims of their own decision. And usually blame it on others instead of questioning their own choices.

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          They don’t know solidarity! We have to teach them! That’s the point! They are stupid and uneducated wage slaves who have been duped by the people who are actually in control, our shared enemy. They just don’t understand that we are not their enemy. Yea, there are a percentage of them who are just vitriolic, hateful, violent individuals that the community will need to defend themselves against. That’s another topic. The vast majority of people, though, are just plain stupid, going through life day by day just trying to get by and not understanding, because they have been duped by a system purposely designed to prey on them.

          Fucking goddamn I am tired of people misunderstanding the entire point of solidarity. I’m not saying to fucking sing kumbaya with them. Yes, they cry crocodile tears and cry the victim. Yet they blame it on the wrong person because they have been intentionally deluded into doing so. Be mad, get in their face and oppose their views. I’m not saying just sit and take it lying down. Just don’t fucking attack them as a person; that isn’t going to do anything except make them defensive. Oppose the ideology and educate them on how they are wrong. Expose the mistake and force them to confront it. Point your anger at the real fucking enemy.

          No, it won’t always work. It takes concentrated effort and repeated exposure to challenge someone’s deeply held beliefs. They haven’t been radicalized yet. We need to, as a political movement, have the strategy to capitalize on these moments where they have finally been confronted with a situation that exposes the flaws in what they have been told and do the leg work to radicalize these individuals. We all have that moment where we were radicalized against the system. They need theirs. They will never have it though if they are attacked for their mistakes instead of given the chance and tools needed to question and learn from them.

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            Yea, there are a percentage of them who are just vitriolic, hateful, violent individuals that the community will need to defend themselves against.

            That is probably a majority by now. They are dug in so deep into this shit, they cannot see the sun anymore.

            Just don’t fucking attack them as a person;

            I attack them as an ideology: The fascist “I am better than others” ideology they have.

            No, it won’t always work.

            I’d say it won’t wort in 90+% of those nutcases.

            If you still insist trying to teach pigs to sing or fly, I won’t stop you. That’s your waste of time. But that won’t stop me from considering you as wasting your time.