I seriously don’t understand the Wayland hate. I’m running it on all my machines that run displays with the exception of my HA panels running on Raspbian.
I really think some of the Linux crowd on Lemmy are way too sensitive and liberal with downvoting. That’s a perfectly fine comment to make. I imagine a friend saying that to me in real life and obviously it’s just an inoffensive joke/jab that shouldn’t be taken at face value.
It’s not like I give a flying fuck about downvotes regardless but when it comes to Wayland the X11 folks are just wrong. It’s time to move on, and bitching and screaming isn’t going to make the developers come back to fix it. It’s Weekend At Bernies, the display manager.
Shut the fuck up, install Wayland, and help submit bug reports and make it better. It’s the future.
I am excited about Wayland. I’m just waiting on PopOS to run it as the default. I’ve tried using it but I was getting hard locks when I left my computer idle for a while.
The logs made it seem like it was a Wayland issue so I switched back to x11 for now. It hasn’t happened since.
I imagine most people don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other. They just want their distro and em to work well.
Wayland has worked better than X.org in my experience.
I tried i3 with Compton and Picom - both compositors for X.org - and it had major rendering issues, both on AMD (weird lagging) and NVIDIA (colour issues). Meanwhile I tried Hyprland on a spare PC and it provides a great tiled WM with both form and function. If anything’ll get me on a tiled WM, it’ll be Hyprland now. I’m also looking forward to Wayfire. We need a spiritual successor to Compiz.
I’m glad to hear it. I am ready to start using it. The architecture is so much more modern and secure. I’m assuming(hoping) Cosmic will be on Wayland when it’s launched.
What I’ve done instead is configured a desktop hotkey that toggles the system-level microphone mute. Two birds with one stone: foolproof PTT and on the same hotkey regardless of Zoom/Meet/Teams/Slack/Discord (consulting is fun)
In the meantime (how many years did it take Discord to update their electron to a not-quite-as-ancient version the last time?), one thing I’d like to see here would be the option to allow listening to global keypresses for certain apps. Yes, that makes security slightly worse I guess but I’d rather have all the other benefits of Wayland working for me while this one isn’t working yet.
My sticking point with Discord in particular is that, at the moment, it’s allergic to file drag and drop under Wayland. If I want to drag and drop a file attachment, I have to open the file explorer dialog and drag onto that.
This is more of a Discord being sluggish to update problem than a Wayland being unstable problem, but it’s still extremely irritating.
Yeah, can’t help you there. I use Firefox tab sync to send browser sessions to other machines so I don’t feel the need to RDP into anything to keep a train of thought going.
I see, of course for browsing the web, I would still use a local browser on the iPad. I would use the remotes session for learning different linux/coding things, where SSH is not enough, while I’m not gone in the bureau for several hours but sharing the evening with the family.
In the Steam Link app, you have the option to select “Start Streaming” without picking a specific game. This will stream the screen as it is without binding to a specific window.
The main caveats here are as follows:
Requires a working pipewire & desktop portal configuration
Depending on desktop portal & settings, you may need to manually click through the screensharing request modal on your desktop at the start of each connection
The Steam client must be installed and running on your Linux machine in order to receive connections
Remmina or krdc work fine for me. Also parsec (no hosting there though). Oh if hosting, I’m not sure, but moonlight/sunshine work fine for me, even if it’s not the usual desktop sharing app.
I’ve tried. KDE Plasma on the 4k external screen is giving me big black blocks to the right of windows I move or for the launcher… Like a shadow. Flickering trails of black block shadows if I move windows around. The latest nvidia driver did finally fix the mouse leave trails of black boxes, though. No idea if it works for Gnome, I can’t stand Gnome’s layout, workflow, and window management.
I seriously don’t understand the Wayland hate. I’m running it on all my machines that run displays with the exception of my HA panels running on Raspbian.
Even my work laptop is Ubuntu, Nvidia, Wayland.
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It’s here on Lemmy, too.
I was down to like -50 on a thread about an X11 vulnerability and all I wrote was, “Imagine still running X.”
I’d downvote that comment too. It adds nothing to the discussion and is deliberately confrontative and superficial.
Ditto.
That comment does look out of touch for a lot of people though
I really think some of the Linux crowd on Lemmy are way too sensitive and liberal with downvoting. That’s a perfectly fine comment to make. I imagine a friend saying that to me in real life and obviously it’s just an inoffensive joke/jab that shouldn’t be taken at face value.
It’s not like I give a flying fuck about downvotes regardless but when it comes to Wayland the X11 folks are just wrong. It’s time to move on, and bitching and screaming isn’t going to make the developers come back to fix it. It’s Weekend At Bernies, the display manager.
Shut the fuck up, install Wayland, and help submit bug reports and make it better. It’s the future.
I am excited about Wayland. I’m just waiting on PopOS to run it as the default. I’ve tried using it but I was getting hard locks when I left my computer idle for a while.
The logs made it seem like it was a Wayland issue so I switched back to x11 for now. It hasn’t happened since.
I imagine most people don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other. They just want their distro and em to work well.
Wayland has worked better than X.org in my experience.
I tried i3 with Compton and Picom - both compositors for X.org - and it had major rendering issues, both on AMD (weird lagging) and NVIDIA (colour issues). Meanwhile I tried Hyprland on a spare PC and it provides a great tiled WM with both form and function. If anything’ll get me on a tiled WM, it’ll be Hyprland now. I’m also looking forward to Wayfire. We need a spiritual successor to Compiz.
I’m glad to hear it. I am ready to start using it. The architecture is so much more modern and secure. I’m assuming(hoping) Cosmic will be on Wayland when it’s launched.
My only issue with it currently is global hot keys. Push-to-talk on discord only seem to work when a xwayland window is in focus.
What I’ve done instead is configured a desktop hotkey that toggles the system-level microphone mute. Two birds with one stone: foolproof PTT and on the same hotkey regardless of Zoom/Meet/Teams/Slack/Discord (consulting is fun)
The API exists, just waiting for things to catch up.
In the meantime (how many years did it take Discord to update their electron to a not-quite-as-ancient version the last time?), one thing I’d like to see here would be the option to allow listening to global keypresses for certain apps. Yes, that makes security slightly worse I guess but I’d rather have all the other benefits of Wayland working for me while this one isn’t working yet.
If you use arch, there is
discord_arch_electron
which can build with the latest electronI use WebCord though
I’m also annoyed with the global key issue, but for Discord, I just set a key to mute my mic system wide.
My sticking point with Discord in particular is that, at the moment, it’s allergic to file drag and drop under Wayland. If I want to drag and drop a file attachment, I have to open the file explorer dialog and drag onto that.
This is more of a Discord being sluggish to update problem than a Wayland being unstable problem, but it’s still extremely irritating.
What Remote Desktop tool works for you in Wayland? Found none Working well on Wayland (Maybe I did something wrong when I tried VNC and RDP)
The only time I RDP is to my Windows machine for gaming and I’ve had great success with Remmina
Oh, yea, was thinking the other way around: I want my GNOME session streamed to an iPad, that I can use on the couch. (OpenSuse tumbleweed)
Yeah, can’t help you there. I use Firefox tab sync to send browser sessions to other machines so I don’t feel the need to RDP into anything to keep a train of thought going.
I see, of course for browsing the web, I would still use a local browser on the iPad. I would use the remotes session for learning different linux/coding things, where SSH is not enough, while I’m not gone in the bureau for several hours but sharing the evening with the family.
Honest answer? Steam RemotePlay
But this is only for games, isn’t it?
In the Steam Link app, you have the option to select “Start Streaming” without picking a specific game. This will stream the screen as it is without binding to a specific window.
The main caveats here are as follows:
Remmina or krdc work fine for me. Also parsec (no hosting there though). Oh if hosting, I’m not sure, but moonlight/sunshine work fine for me, even if it’s not the usual desktop sharing app.
I’ve tried. KDE Plasma on the 4k external screen is giving me big black blocks to the right of windows I move or for the launcher… Like a shadow. Flickering trails of black block shadows if I move windows around. The latest nvidia driver did finally fix the mouse leave trails of black boxes, though. No idea if it works for Gnome, I can’t stand Gnome’s layout, workflow, and window management.
Gaming. Frame rates on Wayland are horrible as compared to on X11