• ???@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    Just a reminder, Hamas is the name of the government in Gaza. What you are (maybe) trying to say is, “The government of Gaza is one part of Hamas and the Qassam brigades are the other militant part, altogether they are called Hamas after the winning party”.

    Journalists have confirmed and shown a large number of these deaths. People are being buried in mass graves whether these numbers are from “Gaza officials that represent Hamas” or not.

    When Israel says it wants to “eradicate Hamas”, that would include the civil bodies that run the government and serve people, anything from the ministers to the government clerks. I wouldn’t be surprised if Israel just thinks of doctors as Hamas actors too.

    Yes, we should not blanket-trust numbers from an organization that has committed atrocities, but like @jet@[email protected] said:

    I think the implication of your comment is these are fictitious deaths, but clearly people are dying there

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      1 year ago

      When Israel says it wants to “eradicate Hamas”, that would include the civil bodies that run the government and serve people, anything from the ministers to the government clerks.

      If Hamas wanted to distance themselves from the intentional targeting civilians, they have had every chance to do so. But their stated goal is not to “eradicate the government of Israel”, it’s to “eradicate all Jews living in Palestine”. The goals of the Qassam Brigades explicitly call out using violence to do achieve that goal.

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        1 year ago

        I don’t think anyone is debating that Hamas’ Qassam brigades suck. Rather it’s whether or not Palestinian lives have value.

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          1 year ago

          I don’t think that was ever in question - Hamas have made it abundantly clear that they have no regard for human life, Israeli or Palestinian. That’s why they’re holding hostages and using innocent Gazans as human shields.

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            I mean whether or not they have value to Israel, which is the one now causing all their misery and collectively punishing them.