You say this, but the people yelling and screaming are typically the ones that are pushing for progress, while the people that hide behind “decorum” are the ones trying to strip people of their rights and funnel money into capital.
one that doesn’t take away the rights of her people
if you want so bad to live in a “civilized” country where Indigenous people don’t bother you with their existence, go back to england you fucking colonizer
I was an ignorant dickhead like you when I was younger too.
You need to realize that your feelings can both be valid and wrong.
Haka makes me feel very uncomfortable. But I understand that’s my own limited perspective. It would be incredibly self centered to let that feeling dictate my opinion.
You are missing the context of Maori culture being alive and well in NZ, in NZ Parliament and that the haka was a response to the erosion of Maori rights… In NZ.
No one was harmed by the haka.
Before you go calling folks disingenuous, you may want to get more background information.
The vote was delayed. You also don’t know the reaction of other parliamentary members. The context of the haka is a dance done to intimidate enemies. Maybe some of the other members feel intimidated now.
If I was a parliament member and stood up with 3 of my pals and loudly threatened another member, what do you think would happen to me?
You can consider whatever the heck you want but please don’t assert as fact your understanding of the cultural context of an art form from the other side of the globe.
I somewhat agree, but on the other hand its not the right place to do it.
If somebody would come and play bagpipes, or start yodel in a courtroom or parlament they would be asked to stop too. And i bet if in those cases they would not stop, they would get reprimands too. No matter how cultural it is.
My man have you seen any parliament session in any democratic country at all? This is very normal for parliament session, it is often rowdy especially when debating a hot and controversial topic, and it IS part of the civilised world.
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Shame on you for calling a deeply historic cultural dance “yelling like an animal”. Fucking colonizer mindset is still alive and well, it seems
You say this, but the people yelling and screaming are typically the ones that are pushing for progress, while the people that hide behind “decorum” are the ones trying to strip people of their rights and funnel money into capital.
Also, human beings are animals…
one that doesn’t take away the rights of her people
if you want so bad to live in a “civilized” country where Indigenous people don’t bother you with their existence, go back to england you fucking colonizer
Get fucked, loser. Their culture, their land.
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may i invite you to fuck yourself?
I was an ignorant dickhead like you when I was younger too.
You need to realize that your feelings can both be valid and wrong.
Haka makes me feel very uncomfortable. But I understand that’s my own limited perspective. It would be incredibly self centered to let that feeling dictate my opinion.
You’re a fucking loser, bud.
“Might makes right” - you
Sti going to believe that when someone invades your home?
Idk a county where minorities can briefly express disagreement in their own idiom seems pretty nice to me.
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You are missing the context of Maori culture being alive and well in NZ, in NZ Parliament and that the haka was a response to the erosion of Maori rights… In NZ.
No one was harmed by the haka.
Before you go calling folks disingenuous, you may want to get more background information.
The vote was delayed. You also don’t know the reaction of other parliamentary members. The context of the haka is a dance done to intimidate enemies. Maybe some of the other members feel intimidated now.
If I was a parliament member and stood up with 3 of my pals and loudly threatened another member, what do you think would happen to me?
Did he fucking stutter? If anything, it sounds like delaying the vote was an attempt to prevent harm.
That doesn’t count as “harm” either, you dishonest ass.
Wouldn’t want parliamentary process to be disrupted in any way by Maori’s expressing concern about laws that are going to affect them negatively.
/s
Can you elaborate further on the cultural context of the haka, fellow American?
I really hate this “you’re an outsider so you can’t have an opinion”. Am I only allowed to consider things in America?
You can consider whatever the heck you want but please don’t assert as fact your understanding of the cultural context of an art form from the other side of the globe.
lol that’s a hell of a strawman
“you’re being disingenuous, what about child sacrifice”
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I somewhat agree, but on the other hand its not the right place to do it.
If somebody would come and play bagpipes, or start yodel in a courtroom or parlament they would be asked to stop too. And i bet if in those cases they would not stop, they would get reprimands too. No matter how cultural it is.
You’re racist that’s her culture not yelling like an animal.
Way to be an ignorant dweeb dude definitely take that shit back maybe delete your comment.
Why would your idea of “normal” be more justified than that of others?
Found the guy who’s never seen a Prime Minister’s Question Time.
Have you seen the things average MPs get away with in NZ (and Australia) in parliament ?
Yes, we mustn’t do that, instead we should filibuster for 16 hours.
Or, just perhaps, different cultures have different standards for how they protest in a debate.
My man have you seen any parliament session in any democratic country at all? This is very normal for parliament session, it is often rowdy especially when debating a hot and controversial topic, and it IS part of the civilised world.
Colonialist rules to oppress the racialized victims of genocide
Stfu