• theneverfox@pawb.social
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    22 hours ago

    It’s also “sponsored flights”

    You can twist words however you want. These aren’t deportations, it’s literally the first stage of ethnic cleansing

    The spirit of the thing is what determines what word we use, not the definition of the word

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      7 hours ago

      What maybe confuses me is that the word deportation to me already has an intensely negative ring to it. Here in the Netherlands, if we hear the word deportation, I think most people instantly think of the Nazi-regime. Therefor I see no need for any other word to show how it’s actually awful. But perhaps the situation in the US is different when it comes to what associations are stuck to these words.

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        1 hour ago

        I mean, the Netherlands deports people, everyone does. It certainly has negative connotations, but there’s an implication of this being a process. Maybe not a fair process, maybe there’s corruption, but you get some kind of chance to argue why you shouldn’t be deported

        This isn’t that. Their taking people, many of them here legally, and rounding them up by proximity and skin color. Even citizens, though so far we have no known cases of citizens being held more than a few days.

        They’re holding them in inhumane ways that, by international definition, classify as torture. Then, for an indeterminate amount of time, they’re shuffled around so no one knows where they are - no access to family, no access to lawyers

        Finally, they’re shackled, both hands and feet, and strapped into military cargo planes. Hopefully heading back to their home country, or at least somewhere where they speak the language

        This isn’t deportations. This is not the legal process and physical acts of removing someone from the county… This is something entirely different