• Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    I understand that legal handgun owners are not the problem, but that it’s the illegal ones coming over the border. The original bill the liberals wanted to pass did say that municipalities will be able to determine if they want to ban handgun ownership in their cities though if I’m not mistaken. I’m for any new laws that gives law enforcement more tools and regulations to curb illegal handgun smuggling into this country through.

    Again, I understand that LEGAL handgun owners are not the problem, but municipalities should be able to make that call for themselves if handguns should be legal or not to own within their boundaries.

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      2 days ago

      Ya it’s weird the illegal gun owner’s will continue to ignore those bylaws as well. I really don’t understand the liberals war on legal

      Guns being regulated at the federal level is part of the reason Canada’s gun laws are so much better than the US where it’s regulated by county. So at least the ban doesn’t break that.

      It’s already a felony to illegally possess a firearm. So banning legally acquired ones is effectively putting legal gun owners in the crosshairs of the law, punishing lawful behavior.

      😢

      Funding border patrol and cargo inspection is going to be infinitely more effective.

      Although the real reason we have a war on legal gun owners is realistically it’s impossible to curb the flow of illegal firearms and by going arfter legal ownership, the liberals appear to be doing something to stop the violence. It’s performative, they also know most liberal voters aren’t gun owners.

      • Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOP
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        24 hours ago

        I really don’t understand the liberals war on legal

        Because legal gun still increase the rate of violence in a society. Criminals also have easier time acquiring them when the supply chain for them is right there.

      • Thepotholeman@lemmy.ca
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        2 days ago

        They can ignore those bylaws, sure. But giving the police more tools and means to curb those illegal guns coming in is a good thing no?

            • Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win
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              21 hours ago

              Not really. Setting aside that atm the only legal handgun owners are the police/military, they have to be stored in a locked container anchored immovable to the home and their location known to the police at all times. IF someone broke in and somehow ripped the safe off the wall/open the minute the owner got home it would be immediately reported.

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                21 hours ago

                This is false. Before the ban RPAL holders could aquire certain handguns. They still had to keep them locked away 24/7 and inform the correct authorities if they ever moved it, like taking it to the range or changing apartments.

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                  21 hours ago

                  Considering those grandfathered in is too broad for the discussion because at that point someone somewhere has one still, no matter what we’re talking about.

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                    21 hours ago

                    This ban still happened recently. There are lots of “legal” handgun owners who are not military/police. There is also the grandfathering of guns as well as certain exsecurity like brinks workers, and positions like game wardens in the MNR. All these employees still had to get their training and lisenceing just like anyone else through the same courses.