number of Republican figures, including Donald Trump MAGA loyalists, have called on Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to resign amid concerns about his health.

(Less cancerous link: https://archive.ph/QMkMM)

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    Need to get these old ghouls out of office and set maximum age limits for all positions of government

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      I think it’s clear that people can be disconnected from reality no matter how old they are, and that older people are not excluded from being insightful and valuable to the political process (think Bernie Sanders and Robert Reich).

      It’s easy to feel like elminating older people from politics is a solution, but it’s not. Voting for good people who actually represent your interests and the interests of your community is a better solution, but that’s harder to think about.

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        You can’t vote people into office who are younger when your only viable choices are people who are all over the age of 65.

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          Sounds like Kentuckians like to suffer. I say this as a Texan and my fellow Texans love to suffer and constantly vote against their own best interests.

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            Kentucky is inflicting their suffering on everyone else though, since McConnell was the reason for the shift in scotus by denying and then rushing appointments through the Senate.

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              I don’t disagree. What happens in Tx also has ramifications elsewhere. It’s just apparent loads of people in both states vote against their own interests and as a result vote against the interests of people out of their state. Until we get more people to vote in all elections the few will decide for the majority.

              Looking at the last stats for Texas during the midterm elections in 2022 sat at 45% of over 17 million registered voters. In a state with over 30 million people, that means 8 million people decided those elections. Statewide and local elections voter turnout are abysmal. Last I checked for where I’m living it hovers between 11-13%. So if Texans vote against their best interests, I feel it’s the choice few making horrible decisions that impact the majority. A quick google search for Kentucky shows similar numbers. 41% voter turnout for midterms and it was lower than normal. The older bloc vote and the youth always stay in when looking at the numbers. Why would any older person vote for someone younger and less “wise to the world” in their eyes. If we want younger elected officials then we have to get the younger voters to engage and vote as well. At least that’s my opinion. McConnell keeps getting elected because younger voters don’t vote if they don’t feel represented by who is running. They opt to sit out, which is the worst thing to do. That’s what I’ve heard my peers say when I ask if they voted. If they don’t like what they see politically they just disengage.

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                Keep in mind that Texas and Kentucky have a lot of voter suppression going on, so low voter turnout is even worse than it would be from just apathy.

                So yeah, they vote against their own interests but votes foe their own interests are lower than they should be.

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        I would agree with you if it wasn’t for the fact that there is also a minimum age for office. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. If a grown adult is considered too young to serve then these geriatric ghouls are too old in my opinion.

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          Minimum for president is 35, senate is 30, house is 25. For one, I think those ages are “sufficiently youthful” to be generally representative of current modern concerns, all other things aside. They could easily be some years younger, possibly eliminated entirely, on the same basis as there is not a current upper age limit: let people be elected on their individual merits, and not exclude people on the basis of age.

          I agree that there being a minimum age limit without an upper limit is contradictory, but a better solution would be to lower or eliminate the minimum. Perhaps some other kind of metric could be employed in place of a minimum age limit for federal office, like “having served as an elected official at the State level for two years.”

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            I’d be okay requiring someone to serve as an elected official prior to serving in the House or Senate. Hell, I’d probably support mandatory public service for most if not all people for a period of time.

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        Logically, if you’re a candidate from any party, that knows they won’t be around in a decade’s time, what incentive, responsibility, or obligation do you REALLY have to do what’s best for ALL citizens— Including those who’ll be around for a few more decades. Especially regarding decisions with society-changing implications that’ll impact generations of change. It’s such a staggering conflict of interest that it’s not reasonable to expect any politician to set it aside.

        That is even setting aside the obvious statistical likelihood that people over the age of 65 are significantly more likely to contract ailments that will impair their judgement and therefore their ability to do their job like Alzheimers (the exact same parroted reason for the minimum age requirement, that young people’s brains are not fully developed, and therefore are not able to perform the job adequately). If we’re going to arbitrarily set a minimum, we should be obligated to set a maximum.

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        Even that can be fraught with danger. Who creates, administers, judges those tests? We already see bias issues in standardized testing for students.

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          There are already such tests and they were created by neurologists and backed by studies.

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        “Literacy” tests from the Jim Crow era South have very clearly demonstrated why these are not a good idea.

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          Those were for voting, not candidacy, AFAIK. Not that candidicy would have been any more fair then…

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      Maximum Age at election = median life expectancy

      If you want to serve longer, make people’s lives better.

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        My suggestion in another thread was if it’s 18 years after birth to vote then it should be 18 years before average lifespan to lose the right to vote.

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    these crusty old farts need to retire. their dumbass voters keep reelecting them so it looks like it will take retirement or death to get rid of them.

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        yes, well, I was thinking more along the lines of a natural death due to their advanced age and probable health conditions. It’s not really a longshot to say some of those octagenarians may not have a whole lot of time left.

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          They make enough to have the best medical care in the world tho

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        There is no way this could go down that would not immediately get turned into either a new theory or used as evidence of a theory already in existence.

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        So your answer is to call for them to die. Tell me how that makes you better than them lmao fucking moron! Good to know you have zero concept of how decent people get the way these folks are today. All these shitty little justifications like yours, which compound until you are fine with large swaths of folks unlike you dying to get what you want.


        be better. you are capable of it.

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          This is a pretty simplistic take. The thing is, Republicans enact policies that kill or ruin the lives of MANY people. If one of them dies, I fail to see how that doesn’t leave the world a better place.

          The comment you replied to was specifically hoping for a natural death. Nobody here is suggesting lynching politicians, that’s the behavior of the right wing (jan 6, etc)

          Your comment reads as typical “both sides” bullshit, with a bit of slippery slope fallacy thrown in.

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            First of all, the comment said they need to die, rather than retire. That’s a barbaric sentiment.

            His comment reads like a person who understands that the blame doesn’t lie with the individuals who are born into and perpetuate this system, but rather with the system itself. Replacing a Republican with a Democrat is like shining a turd.

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        A David Carradine type death would also work. Found with a nose full of blow, a belt around their neck, and their pecker in their hand.

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    After telling a friend of mine about the Mitch McConnell incident yesterday, and he replied, “Him and (Diane) Feinstein gonna get a little cabin together and just see out their years on the porch?

    This gave me an idea. I had my other buddy who frequents Midjourney prompt it with “Mitch McConnell and Dianne Feinstein sitting on a cabin porch on a couple of rocking chairs staring out into the sunset”

    The result? Perfection.

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      That’s what I’ve been thinking, too.

      I just hope the guy that stepped in to help is scarred by the stench.

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    Before anyone gets too excited: while Kentucky does have a Democratic governor, under (recently amended) state law, if McConnell’s seat goes vacant, the governor doesn’t get to pick his replacement but only gets to choose from a list of 3 candidates submitted by the state GOP.

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      EXACTLY. Diane Feinstein is in the same damn boat. Both her and Mitch could have fucked off into the sunset with plenty of retirement money YEARS ago, so it seems pretty clear to me the only reason they’re clinging on is power, and maybe hubris.

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    Get all these geriatrics out of office and put age limits on all public officials. This is such a farce.

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    Honestly I do feel like people get too old at some point to be in power positions, but instead of just having a strict age limit like a lot of people are saying here, there should just be some positions that have this limitation. They could still work as advisors and such, as long as they don’t have the last word.

    People like Bernie Sanders for example can provide a lot of insight and have lots of experience in the field which is useful. But to have someone that could potentially die from taking a wrong step as a leading figure is a bit silly.

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    people: you should resign because of cognitive malfunction

    us establishment: <hides in a bush>

    Edit: had to escape the tags so they’re shown 🤔

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    Of course the MAGAts are calling for him to resign, they’re nearly as mad at him as the Democrats! I’m not sure what it’s going to take for voters to wake up and stop re-electing these geriatric politicians but it needs to happen. We can’t move forward as a nation with all of these oldsters clinging to power and applying yesterdays thoughts and solutions to today’s problems.

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      It is going to take a viable alternative. There should be a guaranteed primary every election, open to all voters, or better something like ranked choice.

      The incumbent is essentially running unopposed.