• Zaktor@sopuli.xyz
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    10 days ago

    Revolutions don’t just spontaneously materialize from nothing, they grow from riots, that grow from peaceful protests, that grow from people complaining to each other in social settings. None of the early steps are sufficient, but they are the type of things that are necessary for the end result. There is no world where less dissenting online leads to more direct action.

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        10 days ago

        And that grew into protests and riots, so… what’s your point?

        Hey guys, guess what. Authoritarianism isn’t trivial to beat. All the other authoritarian states in the world aren’t just full of lazy people who didn’t use the one simple trick. Turns out both propaganda works and a lot of people are actually scared of being murdered or sent to a gulag.

        But again, you get none of that if you try to skip the first steps.

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          9 days ago

          If the conclusion is that a revolution is necessary then protests and riots are obviously insufficient. Which means that posting is not the correct path, particularly because it seems to be very lacking in building irl community, though it is effective at convincing posters that their engagement is “doing something”. It isn’t, aside from enriching tech oligarchs through their attentional engagement

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              9 days ago

              If the goal is to simply build towards protests and riots then that is a foolish goal because protests and riots are insufficient

              If the goal is to build something larger than that, then different methods are required

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        10 days ago

        This guy has no idea what nuance is.

        The Boxers lead a rebellion in China and failed horribly, accelerating the very thing they were trying to stop. Guess rebellings is bad too.

        What a bad faith argument.