(this is a sarcastic post meant to highlight the absurdity of some of the “greater good” rhetoric we’ve been hearing, especially around leaving vulnerable populations like disabled people behind in case of revolution, basically accelerationism)

  • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
    01·
    9 days ago

    Compromise on all your ideals and field the most mediocre candidate

    If Kamala is mediocre what does that make Trump?

    Secondly what is it about Trump that most strikes him as a conservative? What conservative values do you think he thinks about and values the most?

    • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
      1·
      9 days ago

      If Kamala is mediocre what does that make Trump?

      You are aware that Harris lost right?

      • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
        0·
        9 days ago

        Yes, it’s possible to have 2 shit candidates you know :P

        In Australia we are frequently voting for the ‘least worst’ candidate, we have mandatory voting so very few of us have this idea in our head that we need to run out and enthusiastically support a candidate, we just vote for the one who we think will do the least damage, in Australia Kamala would have won easily

        • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
          12·
          9 days ago

          Yes, it’s possible to have 2 shit candidates you know :P

          Yes, and Kamala lost.

          In Australia we are frequently voting for the ‘least worst’ candidate

          Australian doesn’t have first past the post voting! What are you talking about!

          • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
            0·
            9 days ago

            Australian doesn’t have first past the post voting! What are you talking about!

            I don’t get it, how does this preclude having shit options to vote for?

            • BrainInABox@lemmy.mlEnglish
              12·
              9 days ago

              Because the entire justification for “lesser evil” voting is that America has first past the post voting

              • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
                02·
                8 days ago

                I don’t get it, can you explain it more? I’m not talking about the voting system, I’m talking about the culture:

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_of_two_evils_principle#In_modern_elections

                In 2012, Huffington Post columnist Sanford Jay Rosen stated that refusal to vote for the lesser of two evils became common practice for left-leaning voters in the United States due to their overwhelming disapproval of the United States government’s support for the Vietnam War.[8] Rosen stated: “Beginning with the 1968 presidential election, I often have heard from liberals that they could not vote for the lesser of two evils. Some said they would not vote; some said they would vote for a third-party candidate. That mantra delivered us to Richard Nixon in 1972 until Watergate did him in. And it delivered us to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney in 2000 until they were termed out in 2009”.[8]

                She can add it delivered Trump 2024 as well to that list

      • ikt@aussie.zoneEnglish
        01·
        9 days ago

        But this is about ideals and values of the left wing vs right.

        What values and ideals does Trump have that appeals to them?

        Six Trump voters on why he won their support in 2024 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyg5jdgzy1o

        Lets see these “ideals” and “values” that Trump voters hold dear to their hearts:

        They don’t like immigrants, the border crossings

        They thought he could do a better job with the economy

        They thought he could do a better job with the economy

        ‘With his grandkids, I see the softer side’ <- Lady is on drugs I assume, going to ignore this one

        They thought he could do a better job with the economy

        Doesn’t like war, likes a strong man leader

        So 3 out of 5 were about the economy 1 didn’t like illegal immigration 1 didn’t like war

        So people voted largely for Trump because they felt the economy does better under him

        And this looks to be backed up with this poll:

        https://news.gallup.com/poll/651719/economy-important-issue-2024-presidential-vote.aspx

        Economy Most Important Issue to 2024 Presidential Vote

        The economy ranks as the most important of 22 issues that U.S. registered voters say will influence their choice for president. It is the only issue on which a majority of voters, 52%, say the candidates’ positions on it are an “extremely important” influence on their vote. Another 38% of voters rate the economy as “very important,” which means the issue could be a significant factor to nine in 10 voters.

        Is this a conservative value? a good economy? do leftists not value a good economy?