• Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 days ago

    The thing is, none of the people posting these memes are going to “be ungovernable” either. Any and all resistance is resistance. Protest. Fuck shit up too. These things are not mutually exclusive.

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    9 days ago

    A lot of people here don’t wanna be shot, so there’s that. Police are just looking for any opportunity and with the shithead-in-chiefs blessing… yeah, they could mow you down with impunity.

    And don’t forgot many Americans are a single paycheck away from being homeless. An unexpected medical bill can and bill ruin lives here. Oh and then there’s the removal of protections— jailed for protesting, lose your job, congrats now your destitute.

    When more and more of us are THERE, then Americans will have no choice

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      8 days ago

      You don’t think the people of La Résistance didn’t want to get shot or otherwise assaulted by the authorities? You don’t think they had their protections or even their rights removed? Unlike the Americans the French had a good idea of how to take care of fascists.

  • Kruh Master@sh.itjust.works
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    9 days ago

    Does posting edgy motivationals count as being ungovernable? Seems a lot weaker than protesting in the streets.

    I’ll be out there on the 19th. Will you?

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      9 days ago

      I dunno, does making smug political dick-measuring comments count? Seems like it accomplishes nothing but making you feel morally superior.

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        9 days ago

        You should be aware if you and your friends want to do the bottom half of the picture, you can organize and go to any of the protests and fuck shit up.

        In fact the large side of the crowd is what makes it possible to conduct more disruptive acts. Those people are at best your allies and at worst your sheep providing cover.

        What are you complaining on about - go do it.

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          9 days ago

          I’m complaining about the guy I replied to being a smug jackass, why, what on earth are you talking about? Did you reply to the wrong comment?

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        9 days ago

        Brother, you’re commenting under a “meme” complaining about the exact same thing the “meme” is doing.

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          9 days ago

          Good for you. What, do you want a cookie and a pat on the head to tell you what a good person you are? The protest is the point, join it if you think it’s the right thing to do, but lording it over some randos on the internet isn’t accomplishing a damned thing and you should not have any illusions about that fact.

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          9 days ago

          I can’t believe you’re being downvoted for actually acting on something. All these losers do is post edgy memes about doing more but they’re too frightened to leave their keyboard. Protesting may not solve our problems over night but you should be proud that you’re doing something. Ignore these fools doing nothing but complaining it’s not enough.

          • anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            9 days ago

            I don’t think they’re being downvoted for ‘actually acting on something’, they’re being downvoted for sneering at the way other people are expressing their anger online.

            Idk where libs get this delusion that they’re the only ones online doing things in the real world - the rest of us just prefer to keep our irl activities separate and keep the rage posting on the forums.

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            9 days ago

            They’re not, they’re being downvoted for being a smug asshole to everyone about it. I’m not advocating against protesting or any of that shit, I’m just callin’ out assholery where I see it.

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    9 days ago

    Americans can’t even be bothered to show up and vote to oppose fascism, there’s no way they’re getting off the couch for an uprising

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      9 days ago

      The multitude of bomb threats in blue areas of settings states’ polling places didn’t help either.

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      9 days ago

      Those people are more likely to participate in an uprising than the liberals who believe voting is the only thing that matters.

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    9 days ago

    Yes. People try it a lot, actually. It seems to actually have an opposite effect on the cause you’re associated with.

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      The radical flank effect is certainly not cut and dry like that and there’s a good bit of study on radicalism in protest movements.

      The powerful don’t experience empathy the same way. They won’t be inclined to react to a demand until it threatens their bottom line.

      Protesting is good for getting the public to be aware of an issue, especially sustained and highly visible ones, but you need some kind of disruption to the wealthy and powerful for them to care in the slightest.

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    9 days ago

    Stalin was a hero because he made every protest illegal. The protesters were much more based because of him

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    9 days ago

    While I understand why people protest in the street, it really doesn’t do all that much… Perhaps there should be another term we use for large, permitted street gatherings, like an ‘awareness campaign’ or something.

    I thought protests are supposed to be illegal, as you’re purposely disobeying a rule to show how ridiculous/unjust it is.

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      9 days ago

      purposely disobeying a rule to show how ridiculous/unjust it is

      I think that’s civil disobedience, the definition for protest is below:

      protest /prə-tĕst′, prō-, prō′tĕst″/

      1. To express a strong objection to (something).
        “protest a job assignment.”
      2. To participate in a public demonstration in opposition to (something): synonym: object.

      Civil disobedience can happen at a protest, but the protest itself isnt the same.

      Civil disobedience is the active and professed refusal of a citizen to obey certain laws, demands, orders, or commands of a government (or any other authority).

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_disobedience

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        9 days ago

        At that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification! I was definitely confusing the two.