• tetris11@lemmy.ml
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    13 days ago

    I mean, yeah? Is that really so bad. I guess it depends what the intent was. The town I grew up in was pretty tame, and the room I’d get locked in without food or water if I’d misbehaved had books

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      I was locked outside of the house for long periods of time and had to drink from the garden hose / garden faucet, and pee in the bushes. We also had like 10+ apple trees. It wasn’t that bad. A bit boring sometimes.

      But that’s because it was outside and I could get my needs covered and meet friends.

      Locked inside without these needs covered for extended periods is a lot worse in my opinion. Even cats and dogs have those needs covered.

      It’s also about the lack of freedom when locked inside.

      I would not treat my own children like I was treated, and especially not like you were.

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        13 days ago

        Yeah, I just remember it being boring too. I’m also not really a person who can’t go a few hours without water, so I never felt I was being neglected.

        I dont think I’d lock my kid indoors, but I do admit that when it happened to me after I’d been fighting my siblings or something, it was just treated as a time where I would chill out and read a book to wind down. Once dinner was ready, I’d get called for dinner, and everything seemed normal.

        So I’d probably try to create a cool down zone with my kids if I ever have them, maybe a comfy chair they’re not allowed to leave for a few hours?

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          Children (humans) should always have access to clean water. That is not normal in the slightest. A time out shouldn’t include torture.

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            I agree that “people should have access to clean water”. Let’s not confuse sending a child to their room to wind down when they’re throwing a fit with torture.

            No one takes harm from lack of water in a mild climate over the course of a couple hours. The reason it’s bad to lock a kid in the basement (or any other room) is that you’re taking away their freedom (which may be, to some point, justified and correct) and potentially making it harder for them to trust you. However, kids also need to learn that there are limits to how you can behave, and consequences for breaking those limits. Where the limit between “reasonable consequences for teaching children” and “trust-breaking punishment” lies is a fair discussion to have. No need to pull “locking a kid in their room is torture” into it.

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              I don’t think it counts as locking them away without food or water if they don’t become thirsty or hungry while grounded. Grounding my son for an hour, technically he has no water or food, but if he asked for it I’d give it to him.

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              No, that’s mostly fair, and it wasn’t my point to state that sending a kid to their room equals torture. But I hope you can understand that witholding water is not a good thing, ever. Kids might not express (or fleven feel) the thirst. And that can definitely be a bad thing. Take into account possible emotions that involve crying or just warm weather etc. and they could easily get dehydrated. Losing just a few % of bodyweight water can be negatively impacting already.

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      I think how rough the punishment is really depends on how long you strand the child for

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        13 days ago

        half a day seems like peanuts though – though I guess it really does depend how the kid feels about it

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          Dude no! Like a 15 minute time out is ok. But if they ask for water they should be given it. Locked away alone in a room without supervision for hours? No. That is not normal. At all.

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            Like a 15 minute time out is ok.

            Locked in a room or locked out of the house? That is not okay, regardless of how long it is.

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              I think they meant standing in the corner or sitting in a chair for the duration of the timeout

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                Tbh I think even such a thing is not that great for children. Certainly not traumatic or close to it, but just not very effective I would guess.

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                  Standing in the corner doing nothing probably won’t work well, but sitting in a chair with a book and an expectation to talk about it after might. Giving them stim toys like fidget spinners could also work. The idea is you want them to calm down.

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      The only acceptable intent would be something like saving your child from a murderer assaulting your family and there not being enough time for supplies.