Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib refused to apologize Wednesday for saying on Tuesday that Israel is to blame for the hospital explosion that day in Gaza, an accusation that sparked political backlash against her from Republicans as Israel denies fault.

Tlaib joined thousands of protesters calling for a ceasefire in Gaza during a solidarity rally hosted by the left-leaning group Jewish Voice for Peace at the National Mall. She was visibly emotional, at times pausing her speech to openly weep and criticizing lawmakers who have not backed a ceasefire resolution.

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    Its easy and understandable to fall for initial disinformation, but after facts come out sticking to those lies becomes malicious.

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      From the article:

      “Our office cited an AP report yesterday that the IDF had hit a Baptist hospital in Gaza. Since then, the IDF denied responsibility and the US intelligence assessment is that this was not done by Israel,” she wrote. “It is a reminder that information is often unreliable and disputed in the fog of war (especially on Twitter where misinformation is rampant). We all have a responsibility to ensure information we are sharing is from credible sources and to acknowledge as new reports come in.”

      Omar called for a “fully independent investigation to determine conclusively who is responsible for this war crime.”

      It sounds like she acknowledges Israel probably isn’t behind it, but also isn’t apologizing for her initial remarks like some Republicans were calling for. The story should probably mention that higher up and more explicitly, rather than burying the lede.

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        They are talking about Ilhan Omar there, not Rashida Tlaib.

        Omar called for a “fully independent investigation to determine conclusively who is responsible for this war crime.”

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        also isn’t apologizing for her initial remarks

        I dunno this strikes me as an issue. Like, if a known serial killer is accused of murder for obvious reasons, and we find out they were actually innocent – we weren’t wrong for our initial suspicions and accusation, but we do owe them an apology once all the information is out.

        If you accuse someone who turns out to be innocent, the polite thing to do is apologize for thinking badly of them, however much you were justified in thinking so to start with.

        Omar’s comment calling for further investigation is completely appropriate, while Tlaib’s refusal to apologize is inappropriate, especially since she conflated the whole thing with being anti Muslim.

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          but we do owe them an apology once all the information is out.

          No - we don’t owe a serial killer an apology if turns out they murdered ninety-nine people instead of a hundred.

          the polite thing to do is apologize for thinking badly of them

          No, there is nothing “polite” about “apologizing” to a genocidal settler-colonialist state.

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      There were massive destruction weapons in Iraq. Or not ? How to know who you should believe ?

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      The left just struggles with separating the sane part from the crazy-democrat-version-of-maga-part. Gotta stick together to show those stupid Republicans who are sticking by their crazy maga crowd.

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    So they are not believing the Pentagon’s assessment? Or just don’t care and going with feels instead?

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      Pentagon also said Iraq had Weapon of Mass Destruction 🤷‍♂️

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        Also said Russia was going to invade Ukraine, and people were skeptical of it for the exact same argument.

        Sometimes they’re right. You can’t take them as an absolute authority nor always lying. In the broader context, with analysis that other independent groups have done, it seems to me they’re telling the truth here.

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        True, but different time, different administration, different circumstances. Just because a government lied once doesn’t necessarily mean everything they say in the future is a lie, but certainly should be taken with a grain of salt.

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      Yeah, I definitely trust the pentagon not to have a motive to lie about it. After all, they’ve proven to be trustworthy in the past! You gotta support the veterans, they never lie!

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        As a former service dog trainer who trained dogs specifically for disabled veterans there’s a reason I refuse to talk about the military and how it treats their people.

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    The US DOD should find the munitions expert who made that bomb with such limited budget seeing how powerful it is and teach the Ukrainian military how to do something similar

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    She needs to have her bias confirmed. The fog of war is a powerful thing. Unfortunately, her vocalizations do no service for her district.

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      If Israel stopped fighting tomorrow, what do you think would happen?

      Would it get its civilian hostages back?

      Or would Hamas just set up another invasion and kill more civilians?

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          Actually, if the extremists don’t gain control- yes. There have been several instances when they have been close to peace and even a two state solution… But then the terrorism starts.

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            If both sides stop fighting and start working toward peace, sure. I’d note that those prior peace deals have usually been completely shit for Palestinians

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    It’s crazy how quick people are to believe the pentagon with absolutely 0 proof as if they wouldn’t lie to protect the side that have massively invested interests in.

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    I view her the exact same way I view Manchin. They’re Dems, and we need more Dems, but I wish I lived in a world where I didn’t need them specifically.

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    Some of putler’s best allies don’t even know they are helping him.

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      Listen, I’m on the side of innocent Palestinian civilians as much as the next guy, but Hamas does have a habit of using human shields and putting military equipment near schools/hospitals. Truth is, none of us know truly who shot the missile. The fact that it’s actually still being investigated means everyone should stfu