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I know it’s not exactly the point of the post but I want to go on a tangent and note that it’s 100% valid for kids to complain about school even if you have it harder. You should take their feelings seriously because their feelings are just as real to them as you hating your job is to you. When a toddler spills their juice and starts crying, those feelings are just as intense as yours, and you should respond accordingly instead of thinking “don’t they know about the wars in the middle east?”
Yeah, it’s all relative. It’s just incredible how your perspective can change in your lifetime.
I had an absolutely terrible time in my small underfunded high school due to chronic illness, family tragedy, coming from a poor home, and just generally not having that many friends. I got picked on, I struggled intensely with untreated ADHD and depression, and was just all together miserable.
But to spite all that, I completely understand what people mean when they say they miss that period of their life, and I’d never seek to make them think they’re wrong for feeling that. There’s a weird defensiveness about this topic where people seem to feel anyone else having any sort of positive association with that period of time somehow invalidates their own hardships.
High School is not a good or bad thing. It’s just a thing. An experience that was different for everyone. It’s okay to leave it at that.
This 100%.
Sure, a kids worst day of their life is probably still a better day than the worst day of an adults life. But it is still the worst day of their life and they are entitled to feel like so.
Babies cry because whatever happened was the worst thing they can ever remember happening
I cry because babies are the worst thing I can ever remember happening.
Yeah, no. Worklife is much easier. No need to worry about tests and homework and no need to sit in what’s basically an office the whole day.
To be honest, if I knew what I know now, I wouldn’t give a fuck about school tests.
Indeed, mainly because now you know for certain that with limited effort you’re actually going to do fine.
Sitting in the same spot is fine with me. What bothered me from school was walking 10 minutes to the other classroom at the other side of the building that you needed to reach in 5min. Or worse when you have gym and a class directly after. No time to cool down, quickly redress and to the class.
Yeah, that was disgusting. Even when they tried, school had a way of taking away dignity that is downright illegal in the adult world.
Get attacked at school? Defend yourself and get suspended. Don’t defend yourself and your bully might get suspended, but don’t get your hopes up because the school hates dealing with their shithead parents.
Get attacked at work? HR, the union, OHSA, potentially police are all called in. Whether or not you defended yourself is likely irrelevant (assuming a reasonable use of force) because self-defense is a human right. You have the full force of the law backing you.
Some advice on dealing with school shit for your kids: make dealing with you even worse than dealing with the shitheads. I don’t mean being an obnoxious prick, I mean letting the school know you will be forced to take the issue to the police if it cannot be resolved by the school. Nothing sends school administrators scrambling like the threat of a criminal investigation.
I don’t have kids, but I know some teachers AND some cops… police don’t like to get involved in bullying because it could ruin some kid’s future for being “young and dumb”. Putting a kid “into the system” for shoving a younger kid in a locker strikes them as “could make that kid not grow up to be a productive adult”.
And they have a point. Juvie does bad things to kids, according to everyone I know who has been there or who has had a kid go there. They’re as likely to be scared-violent as scared straight.
And as you and I know, it’s about scaring the school straight, not the kids. But the school often knows all this. Especially small-town schools.
Better send that bully to juvie than letting them keep on bullying other innocent children. I rather let the innocent keep being innocent.
Fuck bullies and their future.
Better send that bully to juvie than letting them keep on bullying other innocent children.
Unless you plan on locking that bully up for a long time or overhauling several systems, you’re statistically creating worse than just a bully with juvie. The current legal system doesn’t have a good measured response for bullying. You either do almost nothing or dis-proportionally (and ineffectively) punish them.
Fuck bullies and their future.
And fuck their victims, too? Because bullies only have a slight chance (still much higher than non-bullies) of becoming adult offenders, but if you put them in juvie, that number skyrockets.
Look. I have no sympathy for bullies, and had to deal with my share of them. But when someone decides the answer in a broken system is to increase the suffering of minors, that’s when I put my foot down.
Speak for yourself, I have to sit several exams for my job which require massive amounts of revision and have to sit in an office all day.
What do you even do?
Plumbing
Well, shit.
I’m a college graduate with a successful career in my field of study. The hardest part of getting here was graduating college. To this day, I have never had a nightmare about college or work; but I still get them about high school.
At work, I have 1 boss. In highschool, I had 6 bosses. At work, my boss tells me what to peioritize. If I have multiple things to do, it is their job to tell me what to let slide. If we are behind schedule, it is management’s fault, and they arrange an appropriate responce. Timelines are typically just guesses that are missed, and true deadlines are rare. In highschool, all of my bosses simply give me work, and I am responsible for getting it all done. All work is on a strict deadline, and slipping is highly penalized.
At work, I can simply do the work, and get occasional guidance where appropriate. In school, every piece of work I do is combed through for errors and reduced to a cold score.
As an adult, I would not put up with half the crap we make students go through as a matter of course.
9 to 3
My bus came at 6:40 am
Mine came at 6:20. Day started at 7:10 and we got let out at 2:10. But didn’t get home until closer to 3. A 9 hour day not including after school practice.
I don’t know where these 6 hour school days are, but I didn’t get them.
Jesus man how old are you?
Same in New Mexico. Had to catch out of district school bus at 7:30, which means waking up at 6, leaving house no later than 7. Bus back was 2:45 which meant home by 3:30, at the earliest.
Only 30. It’s normal in Georgia (United States).
You can almost hear the country kids crying about how early they wake up.
They wake me with their lamenting.
What about the endless work you had to take home with you to finish, with some teachers even disallowing finishing it in class, having to deal with bullies and other idiots, being told you need to get laid and that it would change your life, finding out together with someone in the same position that it really doesn’t change anything and you just have to be a special type of stupid to think that, resolving stuff with bullies only to start getting bullied by teachers over your health issues, and probably so much more that has been buried as a defense mechanism.
Skill issue
Sounds like it built character. Hope you thanked those teachers!
I thanked one teacher by using the system administrator’s login to delete all her files like tests and assignments to print out. Bugger just signed in right next to me in one of the computer labs with two finger typing.
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To me it sounds like they’re the one who “taught” the teacher how to operate in this world.
Sounds like the teacher prepared them for reality… which is their job. Commenters parents clearly failed on multiple levels.
Bitch straight up accused me of using drugs when I was having a migraine, which at it’s worst has the same symptoms of a stroke. She also taught first aid so she had no fucking excuse.
Why are you at school while sick? Did your parents just not care about you?
Your teacher isn’t a damn baby sitter or nurse FFS.
She literally taught the first aid class. Apparently she was just as retarded as you though.
Your an idiot
Hardly. I’m a realist and real talk… ops parents failed him badly. That teacher probably saved his life.
Says the moron who lacks critical thinking, talk about having zero social understanding damn
I’ve got plenty of ‘social understanding’, which is why I’m so easily able to see thru this bullshit and identify the root cause of the issue… and it ain’t the teacher.
You on the other hand, makes me wonder how much effort your parents put into your emotional aptitude.
Nope. I would take my worst days as a working adult over my best days as a minor in school.
Yeah, no shit. If my coworker tries to bully me, I have him fired. If he tries to fight me, I have him arrested. If my boss (I have one, instead of 7) is an asshole to me, I put out my resume.
There’s a lot of advantages to school if you’re a lazy bastard who just wants life to hand you things on a silver platter and are willing to pay the price of freedom, but there’s also a lot of negatives.
I would not switch my current scenario for a scenario where I was back in school. Hard pass. Now is much better.
Yeah, I rather get paid for my time and not be dependant on my parents for everything.
Same for me for college and highschool experience. School from 7am-3pm, and then work from 4pm-9pm and 10 hour shifts on Sat and Sunday, from age 14 until I graduated college.
Whenever I say I hated school, people always said it was my own fault for not getting more involved with more extracurricular activities. Those people weren’t trying to pay bills while making 4.25 an hour.
If you’re a social and relatively smart person (or just take the minimum requirements) high school is probably really fun and easy. If you aren’t social high school is either a job or a prison.
If you liked high school more than adult life then you probably peaked in high school.
Hmm I liked high school more but I don’t think I peaked there. It was just an easy stress free life with the thought of a bright future
As a teenager, I did not like high school. As an adult, I do not like adult life. What does this mean?
You peaked in utero
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High school was easy, but so much busy work. Homework every night? Wtf. Not that it was hard, but, like, I’m not doing that shit
Lmao. You did homework for high school?
I never did. And I got lots of Fs. Then I dropped out and got a GED and there was not a single question on it I hadn’t learned by middle school. I got a perfect score. I’m not a genius or anything, I just paid attention, read a lot and didn’t put up with bullshit busywork.
That’s exactly my point. High school was easy, but not doing homework caused me to get very meh grades.
Nah I can do whatever I want now
Yeah. The people who long for the freedom of school life sure fucked something up in their adult life.
I mean I fucked something up as well, but it will get better ;)
I think it’s safe to say that most Lemmy users probably had a shit time in high school lmao
Elementary and middle school were kind of shit too.
I had an awesome high school experience. Same in university, but with bonus independence.
Why? I had no major issues in school. Made many friends, fell in love and had a broken heart, just regular stuff haha. Good times
You’d have to pay me way more money to go back to school.
I maintain the hardest I’ve ever worked was at school.
And you don’t even get paid!
“Education is your pay!”
I cringe even just saying that. It’s all I ever heard growing up.
In fact, you pay them tuition fee 😱
9 to 3? I used to do 7 to 4, without any money for lunch.
Yeah wth I had to wake up at 6 every day which was basically torture for soft, teenager me.
Though still, enviable compared to having to wake up at 6 and keep your kids alive all day. I kinda miss having fun.
You didn’t realize? It seemed to me that the adults wouldn’t SHUT UP about how oh you better enjoy this life while you got it because once you grow up life is going to suck!
which ironically made it worse
Grass is always greener
Yeah, but have you considered that you don’t get paid to go to school?
Nostalgia is a very strong thought, but being a grown-up means that sadly, there is a lot of things in life you’ll have to give up because of money and responsibilities.
But life is short, there is no reason to not live your dreams and enjoy life and be a kid again once in a while. Do something crazy, say something stupid, go see your friends every day not because you have to, but because you want to, have fun again.
But consider: we could make it less shit to be an adult (on average)
I think you guys are finally starting to get the point of the movie. :)
