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Homeless: without a home.
Weird how he’s lying again. I’ve been there, and I can promise this fuckwit that not having a roof or food in the middle of winter in a city where the stoplights literally freeze is not some kind of illusion. That being prodded away from a public bench in sub-zero temperatures so you can shamble a few blocks whilst the sleep in your eyes freezes, over and over for weeks, so you can’t get more than an hour sleep at a time for months, isn’t the holiday he thinks it is.
Jesus christ, I bob my head to the surface for this? It’s like he’s not even trying to be relatable now.
Let’s say, for sake of argument, that Elon is correct. Should we not be helping people with severe mental illness?
Wait weren’t they doing that already?
If not, where was all that money going?
Gonna need you to define “that” in "that money.” If you mean government programs, much of those were defunded back in the Reagan admin. While institutions back then did need broad changes, their removal without a suitable replacement vastly increased the homelessness issue.
You know, even if what he’s saying is half true. We HAD systems to help those mentally ill drug addicts and they got gutted. Making them, wait for it, Homeless! you prick.
the US in total is a right-wing place that thinks that “hard work” is the way of life, and anybody who doesn’t adhere to that is a “drug-addict” or a psychopath.
Which is wildly ironic because billionaires don’t actually work.
*working and grifting
where grifting essentially means forcing your subordinates to work harder
One of the talking points in South Africa goes like this:
The “homeless” black people that live in corrugated metal slums all have mansions that were stolen from white people and given to them by the government when apartheid ended.
They choose to live in slums to work in the cities, and go back to their mansions when they’re not working. Alternatively, they don’t live at their mansions because they are too lazy/dumb to actually take care of the property.Bet Elon he can’t beat homelessness with 19 billions.
Bro will do it just to prove you wrong
Not allowing billionaires to exist would end homelessness
tax the rich!
Also half of all homeless people are foster kids who aged out of the system. They don’t have a family to fall back on.
Wild claim, considering Musk is one of the most violent drug addicts who has ever lived.
He is so fucking incoherent from all the ketamine it isn’t funny.
@Confidant6198
“secular talk” is wrong here.Musk is an absolute psychopath without any empathy. He doesn’t need any excuse to sleep at night knowing all the harm he did to the world.
By destroying USAID, this devil just threw millions of people into starvation.
What do you know that HUD doesn’t?
https://aah-inc.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/whomeless.pdf
Read the rest of the comment. They weren’t talking about the $20bn number being wrong.
Right, it was mostly irrelevant. Also a person who doesn’t understand the role of USAID.
take it from him
Says the homeless illegal.immigrant from a apartheid
TIL Elon Musk is homeless.
Homelessness is never a lie. Beggars, however, do sometimes game the system trying to get easy money. They are not nor ever have been homeless
Elon spouts BS all the time, but $20 billion to end homelessness is some of the biggest bullshit I’ve ever heard.
You should have some sympathy for Musk, since apparently you also like to talk out of your ass without looking into it.
https://aah-inc.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/whomeless.pdf
I work serving the homeless. We spent $10 billion for one year during COVID just to include all of the students who didn’t already get free school meals to have it during that time. Unless you’re only providing cots and Porto-johns, that number might work as an annual figure, until inflation hits, or the numbers go up because once you offer free housing, more people will try to become eligible.
Sounds to me like you’re the one talking out your ass.
Then present your data. Hell, publish your data. If you know better than the experts at HUD, and can prove it, it should be quite the boon to your career.
But you’re not wrong that band-aids for systemic problems are much more expensive than solving them.
Most free housing doesnt allow drugs, which is the main problem homeless people have with living in them.
Then you have the general maintenance issues, fire risk, nimbyism. Is it really that simple?
You’re perpetuating capitalist propaganda. Most homeless people do not have a drug problem. At least half of homeless people in the US are employed.
It’s not a drug problem. It’s an unaffordable housing problem.
Ah, that could very well be true, we really printed a lot of money during Covid. In Canada the government is already buying 50% of all mortgage bonds, inflating the debt people can take in order to juice home prices.
These numbers are extremely unsubstantiated. If you think giving someone $40k will permanently save them from homelessness I have a bridge to sell you.
If you can provide six months of housing, food and support then a person could start earning for themselves. You don’t have to provide a lifetime of help for $40,000
Let’s see your study. What do you know that HUD experts don’t?
People also said you can’t solve homelessness by giving them homes, and Finland did it with ease.
For example, California spent over $24 billion over a period of five years and didn’t even make a dent.
Homelessness is not a simple problem you can just throw money at. People will consistently fall through the societal cracks.
Yes, California’s half-assed efforts have been rife with fraud and waste.
https://calmatters.org/housing/homelessness/2024/04/california-homelessness-spending
Similarly, it costs many billions more to fund our half-assed healthcare system than it would be to simply give people healthcare. Dealing with problems in a way that only attacks the symptoms is far more expensive and wasteful.
But it has been proven that guaranteeing housing is both cheaper and produces superior results.
https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/look-finlands-housing-first-initiative
