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          The post was removed because it was a post saying “the gestapo is back” with no backing, and it doesn’t seem to related to privacy. And “germany is no longer in schengen”? Yes it is, i’m not sure what you’re talking about.

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          do you happen to have a photo of the incident? i would be curious

          i have been ID checked before when travelling from italy to austria by train. As i’m 20-30 year old and was travelling alone, i suspect it was about curbing migration or sth. But they didn’t register it in a database.

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              I am seriously baffled… that 2 people would think an unwarranted general demand for ID papers without probable cause and then recording the data in a centralised tracking database is not relevant to privacy. How on earth do you arrive at that?

              Is it that you don’t care about being physically tracked yourself, and from there conclude it’s not a privacy issue? Do you have something like Snapchat broadcasting your realtime physical location anyway?

              I must say it’s alarming how the basic concepts of privacy has gotten lost on the younger generations to such extent. The modern day global concept of privacy is to a very large extent driven by papers being demanded in Germany in the 1940s. If it were not for 1940s Germany, privacy communities in Lemmy very well might not even exist today.

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            How could this possibly be unrelated to privacy?

            They were not just looking at IDs to look for Turks (which IIRC is the reason they are doing it)… they were scanning everyone’s ID into a centralised system to generally track people’s movement – even IDs issued by neighboring countries.

            Privacy is about control. In this case, the privacy invasion reduces freedom of movement (control over your own travel).

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      Abnormal human being’s comment gives you a good idea why this is ban worthy. Pandering to conspiracy/extremist even if unintentional must be avoided to preserve the community.

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          The conspiracy is that they are only being deported for protest when they have been arrested for a number of crimes.

          I don’t agree with the part about deportation without going through the courts first though.

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            The shit? No they’re not. Some other people in the same protest committed these crimes; these protesters aren’t accused of any criminal acts.

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              Maybe not just read articles that promote one narrative while leaving out essential information. The four protesters are accused of multiple things. Sure, they should be put on trial first and if guilty, get their punishment then be deported.

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                Sigh.

                None of the protesters are accused of any particular acts of vandalism or the de-arrest at the university.

                Instead, the deportation order cites the suspicion that they took part in a coordinated group action.

                O’Brien, one of the Irish citizens, is the only one of the four whose deportation order included a charge – the accusation that he called a police officer a “fascist” – that has been brought before a criminal court in Berlin, where he was acquitted.

                Buhlmann explicitly warned that the legal basis for revoking the three EU citizens’ freedom of movement was insufficient — and that deporting them would be unlawful.

                To correct myself, it seems that two are accused of a criminal act: Insulting an officer. That’s… uh… The fuck?

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                  Insult is a crime in Germany regardless who you insult. It’s Germany, not the US. You can’t just harass people here, regardless of their status.

                  It alone wouldnt warrant deportation. However the article is still missing information I find in German language articles.

                  Also I support the “enforced politeness” but find that the fines are a bit excessive. Should rather be treated like a traffic infraction instead