• WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 days ago

    More broadly, I’m just endlessly amused or discouraged, depending on my current mood, by how many “anarchists” depend on nominal authorities to tell them what they and everyone else may, may not, must or must not believe.

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      9 days ago

      I think it’s more about something you can’t just explain in a few sentences. So it’s sort of like “read that book then you’ll get it”.

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        9 days ago

        I don’t.

        Oh, certainly in some cases that’s more or less what it is - essentially that this person said it better than I ever could.

        But for all too many, it really does seem to be simply that their their thinking never stopped being fundamentally authoritarian - that even as self-proclaimed “anarchists,” they’re still operating under the unquestioned presumption that individuals are rightly forced to align with some particular set of ideas, and the only question is which one.

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          9 days ago

          What are you talking about? It’s not necessary or even advisable to come up with all your own ideas or develop thinking from first principles.

          Ignoring prior art is just sabotaging the quality of your ideas, and it is unhelpful to groups if some members do not educate themselves. If I want to start a farm to feed people the people that are most useful are those that know a bit about growing food.

          If you want to change society it is good to listen to the arguments for how and why it might be changed made by other people. Especially those which lots of people who want to change society in similar ways found useful or convincing.

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            9 days ago

            There’s an awful lot to address here, but doing so will require addressing a number of common anarchist myths and misconceptions, and it’ll be a lot of work.

            So we’ll start simply and see how it goes.

            If you want to change society…

            This is authoritarian thinking.

            Society is not yours to change.

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                9 days ago

                And that’s why I didn’t bother writing any more.

                You don’t understand even the first thing about anarchism. The only question was whether you were willing to learn, but judging by the insipid cant you’d already regurgitated, there wasn’t much chance of that.

                Eh. So be it.