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  • Do you have the internal monologue, when not reading?

    It depends on the situation.

    I actually have it sometimes when I read - like when I’m reading something purely conceptual, like a question on a forum.

    Basically, as near as I can tell, if it’s a written description of some tangible thing or place or event, I jump straight to visualizing it and the words don’t really register. But if it’s conceptual - an expression of an idea or philosophy or such - I “narrate” the words to myself.

    I also have an internal voice - my own - when I write, presumably because I can’t directly share my visualizations, so have to translate them into words right from the start.

    When I’m not reading, it seems to split broadly the same way - I only have an internal monologue regarding things that are conceptual. If it’s available to my sensorium, then my consciousness of it is simply those sensory impressions without the accompanying words, so no internal monologue.

    But if it’s something conceptual, or something I’m sharing with someone else, then I translate it into words.


  • This reminded me of a sort of similar topic, and curiously enough it’s about reading, and might provide some insight into your question.

    Some years ago, I happened on a thread in which the OP asked people whose voice they “heard” when they read.

    I couldn’t even make sense of that question. The only time I “hear” voices when I read is when a character speaks. The rest of the time, I not only don’t “hear” the words - I’m not even really aware of them. My eyes follow the lines while my brain instantly translates the words I’m seeing into images and concepts and the like. And yes - it’s like a movie playing out inside my brain, and yes, I’m a #1 on this chart.

    But apparently there’s a not insignificant number of people who “hear” a book inside their heads just as if someone else was reading it out loud. Instead of visualizing things, they remain focused only on the words - the representations - and somehow glean from them alone the necessary details.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if those people are also generally #5 or thereabouts on this chart, and again what it is is that their brains don’t directly envision things but instead rely on descriptive representations.

    I don’t get how it works either, but self-evidently it does.




  • The mistake isn’t ignoring the problem - it’s subsidizing it.

    They’re free to continue to be ignorant, short-sighted fuckups because we’re there to bail their pathetic asses out.

    If we’re going to bail them out, then that means we’re taking responsibility, and if we’re taking responsibility then they’re going to sit the fuck down and shut the fick up and do as they’re told, because obviously they can’t take care of themselves.

    And if, on the other hand, they’re going to do as they please, then it’s not our responsibility - it’s theirs. And if they can’t bail themselves out of the trouble they’ve caused for themselves, that’s their own fucking problem.

    It has to be one or the other. Authority without responsibility just creates moral hazard. Either they have the aurhority, in which case they also have the responsibility, or we have the responsibility, in which case we also have the authority.