• Papergeist@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    This is where I’m at. I’ll admit I don’t know much of anything about the history of the situation, but what I see right now, is religious fanatics fighting religious fanatics. Fuck all of 'em

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      2 years ago

      is religious fanatics fighting religious fanatics. Fuck all of 'em

      I am with you.

      Though it would be nice if refugees from palestia would get asylum in Europe (which they don’t), then the non-fanatics could get out of there, while the crazies do their thing.

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        2 years ago

        Jordan accepted Palestinian refugees once. Then they killed their king and tried to take over the country. It’s left a lot of other countries wary of accepting them.

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          Thanks, I was not aware of this. This changes a lot.

          Could you point me in the right direction? (i.e. are there good/neutral articles elaborating on this specific case?)

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      2 years ago

      I usually try not to comment on these topics, but where on the israeli side do you see religious fanatics? You can say many things about their side, but religion is not their motive.

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        really? the coalition of “Israel is a Jewish ethnostate” and literal Jewish fascist party (Jewish power, formerly anti-arab militia terror group) doesn’t make you think that they may be some form of religious fanatics?

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          Ethnicity is not a religion. Being jewish has either a religious or an ethnic cultural meaning. Saying Israel is jewish as in religious is saying you solved a 75 year old internal argument. Heck this argument is the reason Israel has no constitution yet. Its a mostly secular country though. Most people are not acting upon any religious rules beyond celebrating the holidays (no different than celebrating christmas for “christians”).

          Oh, and guess what? The construction of israel is completely irrelevent to whether or not right now they are fighting due to a religion or not. They were receiving terrorist attacks and wars declared against them since conception.

          Whether or not you agree with their original idea or the means they used along the way does not change the fact they are fighting for non religious reasons. They were attacked and they are responding with questionable means. Religious plays no part here.

          And “jewish power” received less than 5% of the votes. In the American voting system they would have been as relevant as the american neo-nazi party (which means irrelevant). They are only in the government because fanatics are easily united, and because Netanyahu is a literal criminal that would form a government with simply anyone so that he can avoid jail time.