If the rendering data for scraper was really the problem Then the solution is simple, just have downloadable dumps of the publicly available information That would be extremely efficient and cost fractions of pennies in monthly bandwidth Plus the data would be far more usable for whatever they are using it for.

The problem is trying to have freely available data, but for the host to maintain the ability to leverage this data later.

I don’t think we can have both of these.

If you allow my searchxng search scraper then an AI scraper is indistinguishable.

If you mean, “google and duckduckgo are whitelisted” then lemmy will only be searchable there, those specific whitelisted hosts. And google search index is also an AI scraper bot.

For the people with no service and exploitative ratioed service.

I don’t need wifi I have 100 gig of fast data and “unlimited” after that which I never use.

But my brother has 3 gb and then he loses internet access. You do it for him, it’s common courtesy if you’re operating a business which you expect people to hang out at. They are the content that attract your drink-buyers.

I’m specifically aiming at the “a culture that…” bit.

That the same logic with different garbs. It doesn’t become ok because it’s a “culture wink wink”.

It’s the same weapon used the same way with a tiny lil’ tweak to try dodge criticism.

This is transparent and should not be fooling anyone.

Also you must drink a verification can !

It’s a business location and they could be anywhere, this is enough to buy unlimited internet basically everywhere there is unlimited internet to buy. Compared with daily business expenses this is basically free for them.

We’re assuming a business location here. This is the maximum it should cost pretty much anywhere in the world. So, trivial compared with just one day of business expenses. Functionally free

Sounds reasonnable,

Installed should be downloaded by going to grandmasnixos.com On the front page, a single click starts to download a single file, that contains everything It is a tailored rufus executable with the ISO that contains everything to make it to first desktop boot When download ends, no internet connection will be required to make it to grandmasnixos desktop

When the file is clicked and a usb stick has been inserted beforehand, the grandmasnixos ISO is preselected, rufus autochooses the usb stick

User only needs to press “start”

The motherboard version is checked against a lookup table, and the user is told

Reboot computer a press $KEY_TO_USB_BOOT and choose to boot the usb key

Installation is a single screen that says “This will erase everything on this computer, to continue, click the checkbox below” [ ] I understand this will erase everything on my computer buttons below [ ERASE AND INSTALL GRANDMASNIXOS ] or [ CANCEL AND REBOOT] (first button only clickable if the checkbox is checked)

(there is an “Options and settings” button somewhere, it does not have to be clicked to continue)

No further user interaction until it boots into a working desktop

There is no password by default, the desktop auto-logs in, no remote access is possible until a password is set, sudo works passwordless

There should be no updating unless enabled, no telemetry, no call home of any kind, the system should be able to work offline and forever without an internet access and never nag the user.

The desktop environment should be something occasional win10 using grandma will not get lost in

Taskbar at bottom Desktop that you can dump files onto and start stuff by clicking those files systray on the right Large font start menu Start menu includes a single settings panels that does everything a user needs (passwords, wifi, power management, update, timezone, language, locale, host and domain name, remote desktop etc…)

taskbar should have pinned the most important apps file browser, browser, calculator, notepad, word-like and maybe a mail client maybe a zoom? client or something equivalent but open source and usable ?

If updating is turned on, it should be very conservative, updates hand curated by grandmasnixos, basically never uses software that hasn’t been proven rock solid for at least 6 months. Rolling back any update should be one-click-trivial

On first boot there could be an “out of box experience” screen that allows setting up

wifi password region/timezone/locale/language power settings host and domain name password enable updates enable remote desktop and services open easy user guide

So total, from download to desktop it should be 8 clicks total counting press F9 during boot as a “click”

“comes from a culture that lies about everything”

What do you think he meant by that ?

How the logic of his statement works seems very plain to me, we’ve seen that a million times.

100$/month and a one time purchase of a 200$ wifi router

This would not be a problem if one bot scraped once, and the result was then mirrored to all on Big Tech’s dime (cloudflare, tailscale) but since they are all competing now, they think their edge is going to be their own more better scraper setup and they won’t share.

Maybe there should just be a web to torrent bridge sovtge data is pushed out once by the server and tge swarm does the heavy lifting as a cache.

All this could be avoided by making submit photo id to login into a account.

Yes, it would make lemmy as unsearchable as discord. Instead of unsearchable as pinterest.

Open source is also the AI scraper bots AND the internet itself, it is every character in the story.

Cool, so we need two things, The most streamlined installer possible. “Grandma’s Universal Nix.Conf”

The installer should be written using 4th grade simple english, no jargon

In the top right corner there should be a language selector.

There should be only one page of questions.

The installer should work completely offline.

The installer should detect all peripherals and modify the nix file accordingly.

The second page should only be tge warning about erasing everything

The installer should detect if a nixos installation already exist. If it does, then offer the user to repair the bootloader

Optionally, the installer coukd detect a windows installation. Check the amount of free space left on the drive.

In this case instead of a wipe, offer to shrink the windows partition and install nixos in the liberated space. Install a bootloader setup for dual boot. Auto mount the ntfs partition and place a shortcut to the c:\user folder on the desktop.

Ok, what I am hearing is Nixos but with an installer like this

Rufus ISO to usb stick stick usb stick into computer press magical button to boot usb <-- this should be the most difficult part of the process Screen appears, least amount of text possible Ask only the important questions, on a single screen

then one last big scary page “this will erase everything on your computer”

Check “I understand” then press"ERASE BUTTON" (or cancel and reboots)

then it reboots and everything your average grandmother needs right there a google button an office button and that’s pretty much it

With nothing else but the blank walls and the cruel clock now students have nowhere else to turn to to pass the time but listening to teacher blab his time-filling spiel. If they’re very lucky, the students might learn a single thing that matters before days end, but of course that remains exceedingly unlikely.

It’s about creating the conditions for money later

Ok is what is the “META” answer to grandma’s laptop is going to get borked. Put this USB stick in her laptop and press next a bunch of times and she can keep using it. You have 5 lines of text to explain this solution.

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