If only we did not give up on social distributed verification instead of an automatic one e_e

tntvillage

It was, hands down, THE place for every Italian media

Yep. Also not a surprise that the wine society from the post is neither from Italy nor France :)

It’s actually “us” in the political tech space that started using techno optimism as derogatory I think. I don’t know why you think that techno-optimism label was ever a good one and then co-opted :o

Cyberpunk was co-opted by the Californian ideology but “techno-optimism” I don’t think so…

I don’t see how being critical and optimistic about tech is mutually exclusive

It’s not… But it’s a bit like the word “feminism” that includes much more than women struggles. Techno-optimists it’s not about being positive about some technology.

Not all of them, but to me being tech-positive and understanding technologies can be sustainable is at the core of solarpunk

I agree, hence we say solarpunk and not techno-optimists :P

Longtermism doesn’t mean long term thinking and techno optimism doesn’t mean not being negative about technology my friend

I understand your point but we have to accept that longtermism and technoptimism are the terms we use for what you call extreme. Like racism is not just “talking about race” and so on :)

We have a term to call ourself and it’s solarpunks!

It’s about probability… Like an AI will have the same bias as the data it’s trained on, only talking about data and trends when talking about politics shows us the most probable stuff without taking into account the very good solutions.

Basically what I’m saying is: kurzgesagt it’s not a politics channel but a science one. They take data and read it for us. At most they are being a bit reactionary, but I wouldn’t say techno optimist :/

We want to aim to solarpunk society for sure but that doesn’t mean we have to ignore that it’s slow, hard and the actual trend is different.

BIG P.S. I must say for transparency that I still haven’t watched today’s video

Techno-optimism means thinking that a technological solution will fix our issues. As solarpunks we, for example, are critical of a lot of tech uses and a lot of incentives that do not allow the best tech to emerge just by being “better tech” like a tech optimist would think. Check out Californian ideology stuff.

About longtermism: basically it’s caring less about the suffering of today thinking about working towards better condition for the people of tomorrow. In a stupid simple way: giving 10€ to research for fusion instead of using them to feed a child for one month because people will suffer anyway and the faster we arrive at the fusion the less people will suffer.

That said, I don’t think kurzgesagt is that much tech optimist, it’s just a channel that focuses on harder sciences so it’s easier to focus on “can this technology work” more than “can this policy work”

For the longtermism part, some video ye lol

I’ve tried using simplex but it’s simply (ahah) too slow for groups

I like it privacy wise but I think it’s better for small groups (<10) and 1 on 1 chats

Big chats are kinda a scam anyway, they should be forums lol

Oh no prototype in motion in video?

Then there was also this pdf very cool to keep as solarpunk inspo

https://secureservercdn.net/198.71.233.183/gkz.aeb.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Magnus-Aerospace_spherical-airship-converted-compressed.pdf

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Nooooooo let me see the big balloon plsss 😡😡😡😭😭😭😭

Least reactionary gamer

I mean… If you don’t tell us where you live it’s kinda hard lol

A questo punto spero che almeno telegram riesca a interfacciarsi giusto per essere un’enorme spina nel fianco per Meta :)

Mia sorella in Cristo non dimenticare di mettere di quale paese si parla nel titolo :P

No.

my bad, sorry 🙊

Are you from the Us? It’s usually us people that speak about worldwide while talking about their country lol

Here in Italy WhatsApp reigns; also in most of Europe

Then there are WeChat, kakaotalk, telegram… Every of them has some country in which they rule

The blue bubble iPhone thing fixed by RCS is basically only us America from what I know

better

Let’s not compare oranges to apples :P

Signal has a different threat model

xmpp is in another kind of “trust”

“everyone” where? Worldwide it’s not true

do you have any hint on why i would prefer it over kde? i’m not a linux user right now but kde looks already the most polished experience, i don’t know where it lacks :O