And Robert Beltran kept upping his salary demands each season hoping they’d fire him, since they were giving him so little acting to do. But they saying yes, so he stayed.
And Robert Beltran kept upping his salary demands each season hoping they’d fire him, since they were giving him so little acting to do. But they saying yes, so he stayed.
It also felt like it was shoehorning in all the progressiveness for the sake of being progressive which sends the exact opposite message than they hoped for. The crew was so amazingly diverse representing so many different things that any adult would look at it and go “the odds of all these different sexualities/etc. being on one ship at once are so improbable as to be impossible.” That makes it feel like pandering, not being progressive. That could work for kids, just being able to see someone like them on screen helps a lot, but Discovery is very much not meant for kids to watch.
Basically they tried too hard and didn’t understand what they were doing.
I think that’s part of why bringing in Seven of Nine helped the series a lot. Exploring how she adapted to being a human, when she’d been a Borg since she was a child, was much more philosophical and led to a lot of really great episodes.
A big part of Voyager’s problem was that the writers had absolutely no clue what to do with Kes. You had one of the main characters being just kind of there and largely useless. Once they brought Seven of Nine in and dropped Kes Voyager got a lot better. The writers had a clear understanding of how to write for Seven and she had a ton of character development over the final four seasons. Hell, I’d even say they did a better job with Neelix once they got rid of Kes, since they couldn’t keep falling back on “Neelix is super jealous of Kes interacting with any male on the crew” BS they did a lot of. (And dear god was that annoying as hell. And I like Voyager!)
Back when Enterprise was airing some fan took the opening video and put it to an instrumental instead of the song and it was awesome as hell. Really wish I’d saved a copy of that now.
The scenes in the isolation chamber in underwear applying gel to each other were totally unnecessary and unpleasant to watch, especially nowadays. They have aged very poorly.
I actually liked the Temporal Cold War stuff and the Xindi arc, but that fourth season was so damn good. I wish we’d gotten at least a couple more seasons like that.
I loved all of it! I liked how they had fun with the crew being in the 2D Lower Decks style at the end, poking fun at it with the dialogue. Then they blamed it on the drinks, so it wasn’t really a fourth wall break.
And on the extreme end of that was the Duras family being more like the stereotypical Romulan (and even allying with them against their own people) than a Real Klingon™. It was disgusting how they managed to keep their house throughout the series, even though they were everything a Klingon wasn’t supposed to be.
It was more like this one where they use an instrumental version of the opening theme, but as I recall the music was more along the lines of Voyager’s opening theme.