people to ban them from school and universities

The abaya ban It’s only in schools. Not in universities.

Muslims do not want to force women to dress in a certain way, it’s beyond religion,

You are a muslim shill. Look at the egypt!

• How it started https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZIqdrFeFBk

• How is it going: https://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/28/weekinreview/28slackman.html

Today the debate is less over whether women should adopt Islamic dress — as many as 90 percent of women cover at least their head

Or this: https://www.algemeiner.com/2022/07/28/an-egyptian-womans-brutal-killing-sparks-renewed-hijab-debate/

Instead, they blamed the victim, arguing that Ashraf was killed because she didn’t wear a hijab.

The bold is mine. It’s for you to not miss it!

I’m an American atheist and you’re a chauvinist troglodyte

ahahahaha.

framing every single girl wearing a baggy dress

You definitely don’t know what’s an abaya, and it’s purpose. But it’s ok, you are an american. I don’t expect much. They can dress baggy dresses. They can dress baggy pants and sweat-shirts. Do you know what they can’t wear? religious attire.

it is punishing children for adhering to a clearly mostly benign cultural practice

Nice choice of words. using “Adhering” to white wash that they are forced to use it, Otherwise how do you explain that that only women wears abayas and the boys don’t wear qamis? Do you think that women are more religious than men?

this all fits within a larger framework of plainly anti-Muslim policy forcing people to either assimilate or have no place in public life.

The law is the same for everybody. Jewish people, can’t wear kippah, shtreimel and tallits. Go cry a river. And btw, they should assimilate. Not assimilating means living in ghettos, something that you as american should know about it (since there are a lot of them in US).

started to be marketed at everyone

The equivalent for men is the qamis, however you don’t see them using it. Just this tells everything you need to know about the abaya.

Bullshit. Abaya is a religious garment. The equivalent for men is the qamis, however you don’t see muslim boys using it.

Typical reply from an islamist that never left the muslim country where he lives. Where were you crying when Turkey had the same law?

Abayas and qamis are religious garments. However only women were the abayas. Why don’t the men wear the qamis? What a strange thing: In a mysogynist religion the woman are so religious that wear religious garments! Lol.

it is one with far greater complexity than can be solved with sledgehammer legislation

Yes it’s better to not do anything. Because it might hurt the feelings of muslims…

even if some people do benefit, because many do not.

Even if 1 person benefits with the law then the law is worth it. Or do you think that the law needs to benefit everybody? The law needs to protect the most vunerable. In this case the muslim women.

Oh, we are doing quotes now? I prefer this one from an ex-muslim:

My school and my family became increasingly radicalised in the 2000s - 2010s and while I used to wear the headscarf, I never used to wear the abaya. At home, I was being reprimanded for wearing non-loose fitting clothes. At school, I was told by a Muslim girl to start wearing more modest clothes and think about the Hereafter. Everywhere in the Muslim community at my college, there was ´Islam’. There was this pressure to act like a pious Muslim. The Islamic society segregated girls and boys. One Friday sermon included the reminder for « sisters to stop distracting the brothers »! I saw a Muslim girl put on the headscarf. She came to the prayer room and eventually she started wearing the scarf. I think there was another girl I knew too who did the same.

Eventually, I started wearing the abaya alongside my headscarf. This lasted a week because I could not handle it anymore.

It is therefore not true to say that a Muslim woman wearing an abaya is cultural and about her freedom. What France is seeing is a radicalisation of Muslim youth. Girls coming to school in ´modest’ Islamic clothing will actively encourage other more moderate Muslim girls to do the same. Just like it happened to me.

Good! The rules are for everybody. Freedom from religion!

There are bouncers for that. And better yet there are search engines, so you don’t need to stay all the time so you don’t miss content.

MUD is more like IRC-

MUD is basically a talker with a game.

There’s nothing like IRC+… Maybe, but just maybe, XMPP?

Sorry, i didn’t get the joke.

IRC is nice if there aren’t many people. Otherwise you get stuck in queue for downloading the file. That’s my biggest issue with it. I only use it as last resort.