Related to a post from few days ago. Basically, it’s first time I’m hearing about it, I thought that general consensus is that humans shouldn’t really be having body hair(since we evolved past that) and nothing about voice in general.
I have basically the same voice since I was 12 and have no hair except on top of the head, eyebrows and eyelashes and never heard of it being considered feminine, I thought that it’s completely normal thing for both genders alike, but I of course never cared about gender norms so this stuff never came to my mind.
Can someone explain this stuff and what other things are unnecessarily separated between genders for some reason?
I’m surprised wherever you are from expects men to have hair, or at least consider it attractive. Hairy man tend to get relegated to “old school” men or fetishism over bears or whatever. Unless you are talking about beards, so yeah.
The voice thing, as far as I’ve observed, tends to less about being feminine and more about being a boy, as in: not an adult.
I can’t wrap my head around the fact that people started to think that having a body like King Kong is pretty when Egyptians, Greeks and Romans for hundreds of years idealized clean shaved bodies, with beards being optional, only for some people since about 20th century to start thinking complete opposite.
I read that it was normal for women to keep their body hair until razor companies started marketing ads towards women, making them think they’d be more beautiful hair-free. Soon porn started featuring mainly hair-free women, so more and more men grew up thinking this was normal. Eventually hair removal amongst women became the norm, to the extent that now a woman is considered ugly or unkempt if she doesn’t remove her body hair. So the whole thing was just about making money.
…it’s not so much that those traits are considered feminine as that they’re not considered masculine: thicker body / facial hair and a deeper voice are hallmarks of post-pubescent testosterone, and considered indicative of the transition from boyhood to manhood…
…note that those transitions aren’t the same across all ethnic groups; east asian populations, for example, generally exhibit less-pronounced post-pubescent dimorphism than west asian populations…
It all depends on the country and culture, but yes these are the cultural assumptions in the west.
There’s probably a bit more to it, but in terms of the body hair thing: razor companies wanted to sell more so they convinced western women to start shaving.
As for the voice pitch, it’s more just a biological thing. Men’s voice typically drops a lot during puberty, women’s does too but not nearly as much. Of course these are just averages, there are always people who don’t fit this.
In my honest opinion, all humans should ditch the hair completely except on the head, with beard and mustache optional for whoever likes it, we’re way past needing it anyway. Historically, ancient Greeks, Egyptians and Romans all shaved.
Yeah I have the same one from 12.
You’ll never get me to shave anything but my face, nor will I ever encourage my wife to shave anywhere at all. Body hair is natural, has hygienic benefits, and I don’t think there’s really any benefit to shaving it
There is, your choice of course but having a hair free body for life is amazing experience, less sweating, no icks, no discomfort whatsoever. I couldn’t wait to get it off of me once and for all when I had it. It was natural long time ago when it served the same purpose to us as in other great apes, but we’re now at point that we’re way past it so we’re losing it naturally as time goes by.
