• Madison420@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    That’s not called a war, that’s called genocide and most people would conclude it a bad thing.

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      Seems to not be a problem when it’s the Jews being targeted for genocide. Hamas is literally founded on the idea of killing all Jews and Hamas is supported internationally with billions in aid dollars.

      Weird how that works.

      Anywhoo, Israel is going to protect itself by removing the threat. They’ve opened corridors for civilians to get to safety, you know who’s telling people to stay? Hamas WANTS civilians to stay and be human shields. Their leaders are living fat in Qatar sending kids to die and the world is trying to frame them as anything other than the terrorists they are. I’m grateful Israel is more concerned with the safety of their people than they are public perception right now.

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        Yes, and you should look into the link between Israel and Hamas. They needed an existential enemy to blame shit on so they made one.

        No it’s not at all.

        And bombed those corridors. Yes, terrorists acting like terrorists, how curious, now tell me why that negates Israels obligation to not commit genocide in anger.

        You seen to think I’m for either, if I’m being honest I think the only solution realistically is to evacuate everyone from the Levant and bomb it to rubble and quarantine it so they have nothing to fight over. In love history and partially architecture but, you want an effective solution that’s your answer. It won’t stop either side from being terrorists but it won’t happen is Israel anymore.

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          I’m familiar with the origin story, Hamas started as an aide group before turning terrorist. Israel has used them to their advantage, much like the US used Iraq and Afghanistan to theirs in the past.

          That doesn’t eliminate the requirement of Hamas being destroyed.

          If you want to claim Israel created them, then it’s up to Israel to destroy them and they’re working on that now.

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            2 years ago

            Good, then why play dumb?

            You can’t destroy a existential threat, even if you destroyed one group it would spawn another.

            They simply can’t bud.

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        It’s not so simple. Israel have acted in bad faith and abandoned promises before as well so Hamas and those in Gaza felt they were pushed.

        The problem now has been that generations of trauma and conflict placed both Israel and Palestine to support hardliners in their own. After all, Benjamin Netanyahu’s government is filled with ultranationalists who don’t want to compromise. Conversely, the last election of Palestine elected for Hamas, an extremist group in Gaza (the West Bank elected for the moderate PLO but they are effectively muzzled by Netanyahu).

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      Genocide is bad. But they aren’t doing genocide. They dropped millions of pamphlets and SMS messages telling the people to leave and go south because they will be attacking Hamas in the north of Gaza.

      They are targeting weapons depo and underground tunnels

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          Bullshit. The IDF did not attack the convoy. After further investigation it seems to be a gas cylinder that exploded.

          The IDF guarantees safe passage.

          What you may not know is that Hamas set up a roadblock on those roads, preventing people leaving. They want all the people to die in the bombing so that they can blame a massacre on Israel. These guys are very sly. Remember they are terrorists.

          Also, a load of Palestinians have gathered at the hospital, even though Israel said to evacuate it. Why? The tunnels go under the hospital and the leaders and their weapons are stored there. They are using the hospital and these crowds as human shields.

          You better understand that Israel are the good guys and Hama’s are the bad guys.

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              The “innocent civilians” sheltered inside the Shafaa hospital compound in Gaza cheer when the last barrage is launched towards Tel Aviv - I remind you that firing statistical weapons such as rockets at civilian population concentrations is a war crime according to international law!!!

              Here the link:

              https://t.me/AmirTsarfatiBeholdIsrael/5266

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                Some actual verified evidence, this is a group chat. This also doesn’t address the fact that the IDF told over a million people to evacuate within 24 hours and then fired on them. If you think that’s reasonable then we have completely different ethical outlooks.

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        And the Nazis warned the Jews of the crystal knacht.

        Palestine doesn’t really have either of those, that is propaganda. It’s the most watched place on earth by about a dozen nations with blockaded every points.

        Don’t jump so rapidly to suck Israels dick especially when the talking points don’t make actual sense.