It should come as no surprise that the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta. Their transparent and opportunistic scheme to commodify the fediverse and it’s users will not be allowed to proceed.
We strongly encourage other instance administrators to do the same, given the grave threat they pose to the fediverse.
YOUR MOVE LEMMY.WORLD
I would like to also add this argument into the discussion, since I’ve seen a lot of people who are voting for federating with meta, with the argument that defederating just because we don’t like someone goes against the idea of Fediverse, and interconnected network of diverse servers that is should inclusive and allows people to connect.
It’s quite the contrary - allowing Meta in goes directly against the idea of Fediverse, and we should fight it as much as possible.
This is a literal quote from the main header on https://www.fediverse.to/
The fediverse is a collection of community-owned, ad-free, decentralised, and privacy-centric social networks.
Each fediverse instance is managed by a human admin. You can find fediverse instances dedicated to art, music, technology, culture, or politics.
Join the growing community and experience the web as it was meant to be.
Judging by this main selling point of the Fediverse, it sounds to me like Meta shouldn’t be in the Fediverse do begin with, and every instance should defederate from them by default.
Thanks for saving us lemmy.ml Admins.
o7. We’re out here for yall, and we’re gonna make sure the fediverse stays inoculated from threats.
Thanks a lot, I was thinking of DMing about it. I am vocal about defederation of Big Tech instances, and any Big Tech elements (Cloudflare, CF/Google captchas). These must be isolated away from Fediverse at all costs.
For people who read this, I must also tell that WhatsApp, FB Messenger, Zoom, iMessage… all of these “chat” platforms are made upon defederated XMPP. Google used to also maintain a XMPP federated service, and killed XMPP for mass adoption. This is what Western Big Tech does.
It’s very strange to me that a lot of the pro-facebook views below seem to start with the base assumption that facebook is out to help the fediverse, and have no malicious motives behind all this. Its like inviting a con-man into your home because they super-promised they’ll make you rich.
Really surprising that some people can’t see through Facebooks opportunism, and are suddenly willing to trust these con-artists.
The lack of critical thought has done a number on society. Everyone wants bite sized convenient information to parrot around, instead of doing research and being vigilantes of society, as the former is lazy and easy to do. I try a lot, but the discourse gap has widened so much, that many people only bother to talk and listen when they are hurt by these tech giants and big brands.
Last month, I did make a comment regarding defederating any Twitter/Facebook instances in Fediverse, and I surprisingly received some downvotes. People just do not realise the dangers of wanting growth at all costs. Preventing poisoning of roots is essential.
The lack of critical thought has done a number on society.
Likewise, society (disproportionately affected by the booj and those who serve them) reinforces this lack of critical thought. Someone in the genzedong Matrix server is in the process of translating one of Ho Chi Minh’s works into English and shared this relevant passage:
The capitalists and imperialists use culture and religion to make the people dumb, use laws to bind the people, use power to scare the people, and use wealth to make the people selfish. They make the people frightened to the bone whenever they hear of the word Revolution. So, Revolution must first start with waking the people up.
Every week that translation is exactly, word to word, what I think of atleast 2-3 times, in my free time. I can add to it, that it is also society factions (many groupthink tribes, mostly in Anglosphere) that help facilitate this, and not just wealth.
I’d bet a lot of the so called “supporters” are astro-turfed accounts.
It’s like they all have collective amnesia about the fact that Facebook was caught red handed giving children eating disorders… Just one of many of their crimes against the public.
i doubt they have any malicious intent because the fediverse is nothing to them. they’ll use and improve activitypub, which is great, but eventually corporate strategy/shareholders will take them in a different direction and they’ll fork. damage will de done to the fediverse regardless, but there is no malicious intent involved.
lets not federate and take their contributions to source, best of both worlds.
I’m happy to call lemmy.ml my new home. BASED take!
Why do I keep seeing a plague doctor mask for your pfp
I would say we need a vote if lemmy.world should do the same. I would be for blocking meta.
People left reddit because of corporate f*ckery, and some of them are now making excuses for meta?? What kind of mental gymnastics is this?
So… you’re not gonna try Threads then???
This!
I love this. Source ?
the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to preemptively block threats / Meta
The only sane approach to this “dilemma”. Thank you for keeping the instance free of “threats” (I see what you did there)
It’s quite the dilemmy
I hope Lemmy.world does the same.
I’m moving if they don’t.
Same. I just wish there was an easy way to transfer. I just found the communities I wanted and I don’t look forward to making a new profile and adding them all again.
I already have an account ready to switch. It’s still early days so it should be relatively painless if it means sticking with the Lemmy instance that knows capital will only expand and ruin things in the pursuit of profit.
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I’m thinking the same thing…they’re trying to avoid blowback by breaking the fedipact by just….saying nothing.
I swear I’ll fucking leave if they don’t dederate with Meta
I really REALLY hate to bring up Reddit since I know everyone is sick of hearing about it, but this is just like when Subreddits were determining whether or not to go dark and some of the more popular ones opted to just say or do nothing because they didn’t want to go against the grain.
FFS I wish people would grow a pair and fight back.
I was really disappointed to see many big communities just carry on.
I am on lemmy.world, but the inaction of the admins there made me create an account here on .ml as soon as I saw one of the admins being basically as “naive” as Mastodon’s Rochko.
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They’re open as it seems (since I got to register today), but the sign-up process requires you to answer a few basic questions to verify you’re not a bot or spam account.
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A couple of minutes, don’t know if I was lucky or not though. Remember to check your email if you provided it!
They’re too busy banning users for so-called trolling because they don’t want anyone to dunk on Reddit haters for saying the truth
Mastodon.world said they won’t pre-emptively defederate (but are prepared to do so as soon as they notice something bad), so I’m guessing lemmy.world has the same stance
I posed this question to the admins a while back. How does the community officially suggest instances to defederate. How do we vote on those choices? Where is the process?
This was during the lemmy.online thing, where that instance (which no longer exists) created a bot to basic just crawl reddit and duplicate posts to their instance. I immediately told the instance admin that they should stop and I asked the admins where the process was to submit a de-federation request.
All I got was a bunch of BS from users about how de-federation should be something we don’t take lightly, blah blah blah, but all I was asking was where the process is. How are we even partaking in a system that’s so ripe for admin abuse?
The lemmy.world admins aren’t malicious… they’re just in over their heads. They’ve struggled with the technical side of running the service and they haven’t built out some of the social tools that an instance this side needs. Hopefully they mature quickly.
I hope Leemy.world does the same *soon
Every time I see a picture of him I think it has to be edited or something. He’s like a walking Snapchat filter.
“Hello, fellow humans!”
Does any other human out there love smoked meats ?
The best part about the full smoked meats vid is when his “friends” (i.e. employees) come over. What really gets me is that the friends NEVER speak unless spoken to, because it’s just a really awkward work event where Zuck has to pretend he has friends.
It made him look so gosh dang relatable.
No, that’s not the word I’m looking for. Unlikeable. That’s the one.
expired
Interesting, mine was 5 seconds long and muted.
I don’t know about these smoking meats, but I enjoy human activities such as breathing air and walking with my leg.
This could be the intro to a found footage horror film about a cannibal that smokes his victims.
Just a note that Mark Zuckerberg’s name fits the meter for “Actual Cannibal Shia LeBeouf”
Tyler Cassidy made also a good song about Zucc.
Believe it or not, but this image is also not edited
That one definitely is edited lol. Reminds me of the android from that Queen album cover
I can’t unsee it now lmao
Now I get why Stewie was terrified.
He always looks AI-generated
That’s because he’s an AI.
I know, The Social Network told me
Good god that’s terrifying.
How
Bro didn’t want a sunburn I guess, lol.
HELLO, FELLOW HUMANS
He likely has a skilled pr team that has crafted his image as unique, brilliant, and even all this alien/ lizard stuff. In general, he is simply a billionaire and for sure not have much in common with working people.
the lizard thing is unfortunately just antisemitism, and older than zucc himself. the whole alien lizard people running the world bit comes from David Icke, who is very much a fascist, and was inspired directly by old school Nazi conspiracy theory texts like the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
It looks like his face was stretched vertically at the middle of his nose, and someone blurred his undereye area and blended the bottoms of his eyeballs in. Disturbing stuff.
When you nut but she still Zucc-in
…the lemmy.ml admin team took about 2 minutes to decide to pre-emptively block threats / Meta.
When the typo is more accurate than what was intended to be written.
Thank you so much! Let’s make sure the XMPP situation never repeats ever again.
Thank you Lemmy.ml Meta can F off.
They really put the meta in metastasize!
This is brilliant!
All the way off!
Lemmy developers, thank you!
Good riddance to Meta’s bullshit. Stop them before they get to the first E in EEE.
Here’s a sign to put up at the border between Lemmy.ml and Threads, which will surely have a 100-meter wall built on it with 50 kV electric fences, barbed wire, watchtowers, snipers, and whatever to keep those Meta corporate fuckers out.
Threads Quarantine Zone sign
Thank you for your integrity and ethics. This action sends a strong message to the capitalist leeches where we stand.
Hi guys, I’m new here from Reddit and I’m still learning about Lemmy and the Fediverse. Can someone ELI5 how not blocking Threads can negatively affect this community? Thanks.
