1 Timothy 2:12-13 ESV “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve;”
1 Corinthians 14:34-35 “The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.”
Ephesians 5:22-24 “Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.”
Genesis 3:16 “To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you.””
Well, no. Jesus is supposed to have fulfilled the laws of Moses so that the complex series of rules was largely done away with. You don’t, for instance, have Levites offering sacrifices for your sins in temples under Christianity. The problem with that is that Christians cite Mosaic law as though is was relevant to Christianity.
Every word of the Bible came from God and is 100% true.
Except for the parts we want to ignore.
Anecdotal. A rabbi put it this way; the Bible is a lot like the daily newspaper. If the paper says that the President was in Chicago last night you know it’s absolutely true. If the paper says that it will rain tomorrow you can accept it as a reasonable prediction. If the paper says Charlie Brown has a talking dog you have to consider it a metaphor for a greater truth.
The text of the OT and NT both are attributed (often falsely, per general consensus) to specific authors. King David, Peter, Paul, etc. Whole lot of Paul. Most of the New Testament claims of divine inspiration or revelation come from Paul claiming he was inspired by visions of Jesus (Galatians 1:11, 1 Thessalonians 2:13, etc.). And if we go back up to the various male supremacist stances in the NT, Paul also wrote most of those. Really begs the question, is this Christianity or…Paulianity. Reminds me of the Sunni vs. Shia difference on the significance of Ali, except we barely have the controversy, Paul’s huckster take on Jesus is basically the universally accepted norm. In many cases it seems to be completely at odds with Jesus’s teachings recorded elsewhere. It’s really crazy.
Someone else pointed out that the Middle East was pretty illiterate circa 1 AD. Meanwhile, China had a high literacy rate. If God had wanted his book widely distributed, he sure picked a bad place to have it published.
Listen up, Jerkules….
1 Timothy 2:12-13 ESV “I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve;”
1 Corinthians 14:34-35 “The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.”
Ephesians 5:22-24 “Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife even as Christ is the head of the church, his body, and is himself its Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands.”
Genesis 3:16 “To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you.””
Dooood!
If they took their own book seriously cheeseburgers would be as illegal as abortions.
Well, no. Jesus is supposed to have fulfilled the laws of Moses so that the complex series of rules was largely done away with. You don’t, for instance, have Levites offering sacrifices for your sins in temples under Christianity. The problem with that is that Christians cite Mosaic law as though is was relevant to Christianity.
Every word of the Bible came from God and is 100% true.
Except for the parts we want to ignore.
Anecdotal. A rabbi put it this way; the Bible is a lot like the daily newspaper. If the paper says that the President was in Chicago last night you know it’s absolutely true. If the paper says that it will rain tomorrow you can accept it as a reasonable prediction. If the paper says Charlie Brown has a talking dog you have to consider it a metaphor for a greater truth.
The text of the OT and NT both are attributed (often falsely, per general consensus) to specific authors. King David, Peter, Paul, etc. Whole lot of Paul. Most of the New Testament claims of divine inspiration or revelation come from Paul claiming he was inspired by visions of Jesus (Galatians 1:11, 1 Thessalonians 2:13, etc.). And if we go back up to the various male supremacist stances in the NT, Paul also wrote most of those. Really begs the question, is this Christianity or…Paulianity. Reminds me of the Sunni vs. Shia difference on the significance of Ali, except we barely have the controversy, Paul’s huckster take on Jesus is basically the universally accepted norm. In many cases it seems to be completely at odds with Jesus’s teachings recorded elsewhere. It’s really crazy.
Someone else pointed out that the Middle East was pretty illiterate circa 1 AD. Meanwhile, China had a high literacy rate. If God had wanted his book widely distributed, he sure picked a bad place to have it published.
As per ‘Life of Brian.’
Blessed at the cheesemakers…
Reminds me of Mormonism and Joseph Smith.
“1 Timothy”, AKA “Paul 1”.
“1 Corinthians”, AKA “Paul 4”.
“Ephesians”, AKA “Paul 6”.
See a trend here?