• Varyk@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    You don’t want health care, social security or education?

    You think that right now your taxes are only paying for things you want?

    You’d rather pay $33000 for an emergency appendectomy you had no preparation for than $4000?

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      You don’t want health care, social security or education?

      Not to the extent that I would be paying in taxes under a socialized system, no.

      You think that right now your taxes are only paying for things you want?

      Lack of perfection is not an excuse for not pursuing improvement.

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        Implying you would rather pay an extra 30k for a surgery.

        There’s no “extent”. You get the same or better services(France is ranked 7th in healthcare, US is 30th worldwide), but far cheaper.

        https://ceoworld.biz/2021/04/27/revealed-countries-with-the-best-health-care-systems-2021/

        Lack of perfection blah blah…

        Thank you, this is my point: Other countries are doing healthcare and education better than the US, cheaper for everyone, with less bureaucracy and better results.

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          Implying you would rather pay an extra 30k for a surgery.

          Absolutely, considering the absolutely gargantuan savings over time.

          Other countries are doing healthcare and education better than the US, cheaper for everyone

          It’s hardly cheaper, unless you’re the type to just pretend taxes don’t count

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            The gargantuan savings of paying 10 times as much for any medical, dental, vision or internal medical diagnosis or procedure?

            Yale epidemiologists(and every other research scientist) prove that socialized medicine is cheaper:

            https://www.citizen.org/news/fact-check-medicare-for-all-would-save-the-u-s-trillions-public-option-would-leave-millions-uninsured-not-garner-savings/

            The US would save almost half a trillion a year by switching to Medicare for all.

            It’s absolutely cheaper, unless you’re pretending that taxes are your only expense.

            Want to get a be a doctor in the US? 50k to 60k. vs. public education, 1k-4k a year.

            Just by going to school in the US, you are crippling yourself financially. Chronic illness? Financially crippling. Car crash injuries? Root canal?

            French socialized medicine? A nominal fee for far better healthcare.

            Saving a few thousand a year does not offset the tens of thousands of dollars US college students pay every semeste, nor devastating medical debt for anyone with common illnesses, nor millions list in crumbling transportation infrastructure, nor the paltry social security that seniors cannot live on, nor the complete lack of combat veteran support for medical care or housing. Three thousand a year does not cover a fraction of any of these costs in the for-profit US systems.

            Ever maintain your car? What is more cost-effective? Changing the fluids and filters annually or buying a new car annually?

            The savings are mathematical fact proved for decades by every country using socialized services.

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              Ever maintain your car? What is more cost-effective? Changing the fluids and filters annually or buying a new car annually?

              What’s cheaper is not spending my money on a Mercedes for everyone on the block