Edit- Getting a pretty negative response here, and not really sure why. I support Luigi and what he did, but we don’t need to rewrite the dictionary. If oligarchs decide to oppress, they will (and should) get terrorists.
It was terrorism. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t necessary. Squeeze people the way insurance companies do, and eventually they’ll start to bite back. If oligarchs don’t want people to resort to terrorism, they can loosen their grip any second. Keep fucking people over, and we’ll get more terrorism… it’s a pretty predictable cycle that boils down to ‘fuck around, find out’.
It can be - depends on the motive. The word ‘terrorism’ stirs up some pretty extreme imagery, but it doesn’t actually take much to meet the description.
If I stick a knife into a bag of potato chips on the shelf of a Walmart just for shits and giggles, I’ve just committed vandalism.
If I stick a knife into a bag of potato chips on the shelf of a Walmart because I don’t like that Walmart drives local shops out of business, I’ve just committed terrorism.
Luigi committed terrorism. Don’t conflate that with ‘Luigi is bad’ - he’s a fucking hero, and we desperately need more people like him.
No he didn’t. He wasn’t attempting to influence policy, or terrorize the institutions. He was exacting revenge against the person he felt was most responsible for suffering. That’s not terrorism, that’s murder.
‘Terrorism’ is a code word, much like ‘communist’ in the 1950s or ‘evil’ in a cheap sci-fi movie. It means what the government wants it to mean. It’s not what happened on 12/4/2024.
We’re bashing heads over denotation vs connotation. I’m sticking with the former. Making up or ignoring definitions is a big part of what makes politics infuriating; we don’t need to do that to Luigi.
Then why not use another word with the same denotation, but different connotation. Why “terrorist?” Why not revolutionary, freedom fighter, martyr, or saint?
Because the conversation is about what he’s being charged with, which is terrorism. The scope here is legal, so why use an ideological framework to discuss it? He’s 100% a freedom fighter, he’s absolutely being made into a martyr - etc - but none of those have anything to do with his charges.
Pushing a narrative that he didn’t commit terrorism isn’t going to help him in a courtroom. I’d rather steer the conversation to that he was pushed by UHC into resorting to terrorism due to being victimized by their wildly unethical interference with healthcare. Of the two parties, he’s the one that acted ethically, and therefore the jury should be empowered to nullify the charges despite him meeting the criteria.
Basically, staging the public opinion of “he didn’t do it” is just setting him up for failure. “Fuck yeah he did it - may this be a lesson to oligarchs to stop pushing people over the edge - let’s get him out of the fire that he threw himself into to help everyone.”
Edit- Getting a pretty negative response here, and not really sure why. I support Luigi and what he did, but we don’t need to rewrite the dictionary. If oligarchs decide to oppress, they will (and should) get terrorists.
It was terrorism. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t necessary. Squeeze people the way insurance companies do, and eventually they’ll start to bite back. If oligarchs don’t want people to resort to terrorism, they can loosen their grip any second. Keep fucking people over, and we’ll get more terrorism… it’s a pretty predictable cycle that boils down to ‘fuck around, find out’.
No it wasnt. You being unsure why you are getting downvoted is pretty fucking dumb dude lmao
Every murder can be called terrorism if this is.
It can be - depends on the motive. The word ‘terrorism’ stirs up some pretty extreme imagery, but it doesn’t actually take much to meet the description.
If I stick a knife into a bag of potato chips on the shelf of a Walmart just for shits and giggles, I’ve just committed vandalism.
If I stick a knife into a bag of potato chips on the shelf of a Walmart because I don’t like that Walmart drives local shops out of business, I’ve just committed terrorism.
Luigi committed terrorism. Don’t conflate that with ‘Luigi is bad’ - he’s a fucking hero, and we desperately need more people like him.
No he didn’t. He wasn’t attempting to influence policy, or terrorize the institutions. He was exacting revenge against the person he felt was most responsible for suffering. That’s not terrorism, that’s murder.
‘Terrorism’ is a code word, much like ‘communist’ in the 1950s or ‘evil’ in a cheap sci-fi movie. It means what the government wants it to mean. It’s not what happened on 12/4/2024.
We’re bashing heads over denotation vs connotation. I’m sticking with the former. Making up or ignoring definitions is a big part of what makes politics infuriating; we don’t need to do that to Luigi.
Then why not use another word with the same denotation, but different connotation. Why “terrorist?” Why not revolutionary, freedom fighter, martyr, or saint?
Because the conversation is about what he’s being charged with, which is terrorism. The scope here is legal, so why use an ideological framework to discuss it? He’s 100% a freedom fighter, he’s absolutely being made into a martyr - etc - but none of those have anything to do with his charges.
Pushing a narrative that he didn’t commit terrorism isn’t going to help him in a courtroom. I’d rather steer the conversation to that he was pushed by UHC into resorting to terrorism due to being victimized by their wildly unethical interference with healthcare. Of the two parties, he’s the one that acted ethically, and therefore the jury should be empowered to nullify the charges despite him meeting the criteria.
Basically, staging the public opinion of “he didn’t do it” is just setting him up for failure. “Fuck yeah he did it - may this be a lesson to oligarchs to stop pushing people over the edge - let’s get him out of the fire that he threw himself into to help everyone.”
It was objectively not terrorism. Luigi acted in self defense.
Your liberalism is showing.