• Dragon Rider (drag)@lemmy.nz
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    27 days ago

    He should read some Kant and Hume.

    Human reason, in one sphere of its cognition, is called upon to consider questions, which it cannot decline, as they are presented by its own nature, but which it cannot answer, as they transcend every faculty of the mind.

    Reason is and ought only to be a slave to the passions

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      27 days ago

      He may have read both - apparently he’s very well read. My guess is he would disagree with Hume on that point, but I don’t know the guy.

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        26 days ago

        Well Hume was right. Reason can’t derive axioms. It can’t create purpose from nothing. It can’t solve the is-ought problem. Passion can. Passion can say “the world should be like this. Why? Because I want it to be”. Reason can’t do that. And thus, reason should exist only to serve passion.

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          26 days ago

          OTOH reason has kept a roof over my head when my passion would have had me do Arduino projects or write D&D campaigns instead of working. Maybe Hume’s gf had a job.

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            26 days ago

            Why should you have a roof over your head? If emotions are irrelevant, what’s the difference between that and being homeless?

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              26 days ago

              Survival. The emotions are ultimately just crude tools the brain and body have for promoting the survival of the person.

              Their crudeness is probably best illustrated with phobias.

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                26 days ago

                If emotions are irrelevant, why survive? Why not lie down and die? You say it’s not your fear of death or your love of life. Is it some form of worship of the purpose evolution has given you? That sounds emotional to drag.

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      26 days ago

      I don’t think they’d find that very insightful.

      It’s plain hedonism. I’m sure they’re familiar with the idea.

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          Bentham developed hedonistic calculus. The foundation is a multivariate ethical vector space. He rationalized hedonism to the extreme. The passions are explicitly tempered for a calculated greater good.

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              No? Once reason restricts passion, the hierarchy collapses. An action that causes yourself mild pain, but pleasure of greater extent to others, is preferable to an action that causes many others pain even if it gives you pleasure personally. Reason demands you restrain yourself from the passions that would harm others. That’s not unilateral fealty. Axioms must be assumed, but the most powerful systems assume as few as possible, and leave most of the legwork to reason.