i can’t even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they’re not quiet now once they get called out

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    Personally, while I listen to people, and can’t but accept bigotry as part of the issue, it isn’t THE issue.

    Agree. I heard Hasanabi frame it as, the US is certainly sexist and racist, yes, but those hurdles could have been overcome (as with Obama) by employing messaging that is appealing to the majority public who feel alienated from their labor and neighbors. And that did not happen, not nearly enough or comparably to Obama, and so racism and sexism won out.

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      Yes, much of the labor here voted trump due to blindly reaching out to someone they thought was a political outsider. Now they are furious that their compensation is going to be cut, and their union (this is largely manufacturing) can’t do anything, because their company can materially prove major losses in profit margins. Even the top brass, in a number of these companies, are having their contracts re-negotiated to reduce their compensation. Locally, they voted more progressive than in decades, because they saw those people as outsiders too. This goes right along with what AOC, and Bernie, are saying about people who voted for both them and trump.

      Much of the people, who voted biden, and then sat this out, are older white men. People seem to think just mentioning this means you are saying it was all hate due to woman of color. However, I also see the concerns of this demographic are way different than those who would be seriously concerned about palestine. Here people are saying things akin to “the destruction of our palestine (the train wreck that poisoned palestine OH) was just a news cycle, the one on the other side of the world has been on the news for months.”

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        Have you seen a clip of JD Vance talking about the east Palestine train wreck? It’s on muskrats shitter somewhere. He legit sounds like Bernie sanders when he talks about it.

        The parties are doing a really weird flip. Republicans are cosplaying being pro labor and are starting to say things that are going towards leftism, at least in the particular clip I’m referring to. He talks about the need for strong regulations against corporate America…

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          Yes, I have. When he is speaking locally he is in hillbilly elegy mode. When he is speaking as the VP he is 100% MAGA nazi rhetoric.

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            Don’t get me wrong I don’t trust him for a second. But it’s interesting to watch the republicans cosplay as pro labor.