Dearborn is home to one of the largest concentrations of Arab Americans and has traditionally been a Democratic stronghold. But this year that all changed.
Oh, that didn’t work. Losing elections isn’t the same as being punished. Not saying it was a bad move, I’m saying it was the wrong one. It was also a bad move though.
“All Harris had to do was stop the war.”
Oh is that it? Just as a VP / figurehead, swoop on over and say, “Stop it.” Man, why hasn’t anyone ever tried that before?
Dearborn, I hope your lives work out ok. You’ve really fucked up.
And your point? Just because they found an idiot they could quote doesnt make it a wide spread viewpoint. Also if she had won she would have had a lot more clout in the remaining months on policy.
My point is that you’re not making any responses which are relevant here. You’re making inventions out of your assumptions and trying to get other people to talk about those instead of the quote.
But the quote is right there, and it doesn’t matter if you think the actual mayor of Dearborn is an unrepresentative idiot or not, does it? Plenty of other folks disagree, and they’re not on the internet trying to set up straw men to dunk with.
The part were no one was asking her to put an immediate stop the the blood bath. The ask was that she commit to upholding leahy and other American laws w/ respect to a genocidal Israel regime. Im sorry you lack the ability to put comments into context of a larger conversation.
Im sure if you asked the council member to clarify they would have said ‘of course i meant after she was elected’
That tactic was tried in 2016 and failed. The political party isn’t the one getting punished when you vote that way nor does it encourage them to change their ways.
Changing the direction of a political party is a long, drawn out affair that requires sustained political action over the course of years.
I have a feeling a lot of people who voted for Trump are going to be hurt by his policies and they’re going to be completely shocked as though this wasn’t known already. How could they possibly have known the person who bragged about hurting them when elected would actually hurt them when elected? /s
They won’t be shocked. They’ll blame it on liberals and democrats and anyone else who had nothing to do with it… because nothing is ever their fault, it’s always a conspiracy by someone else.
It doesn’t work because both political parties are servants to the same masters. Nothing will ever significantly change as long as that’s true. At least not without protracted hardship.
Yes, but he’s far too old at this point to run. We don’t have anybody on the left who is a rockstar dem-socialist except for maybe AOC, and Democrats are probably not going to run another woman in the race for POTUS for another 50 years after these last two embarrassing defeats, so I wouldn’t get my hopes up for that.
Meanwhile, the right is grooming an entire cadre of Trump’s successors so they can keep the MAGA gravy train rolling long after the evil bastard croaks.
I hope it doesnt work out for them. I kind of hope a bunch of them die in a fire because that’s about what it’s going to take for people to start understanding how serious all of this is.
Except it wasn’t the first human transmission of bird flu. And sadly it won’t be the last. And we’ve got anti-vaxxer Bobby Brain-worm as head of HHS now. H5N1 in humans has a lethality of 50% of those who contract it. Not too much less than Ebola, and a LOT easier to catch.
My dream schadenfreude scenario is that a hurricane wipes out the Villages in Florida, and it’s bad because Trump privatized NOAA, so no one knew to evacuate, then when they’re picking up the pieces they get hit with a wet bulb event.
By “wet bulb event” do you mean when the wet bulb temperature exceeds around 94 F and you will literally eventually die without air conditioning? Because, yeah, that’s incredibly scary.
We had a couple of those days in Texas this summer.
I don’t see much of a difference between them wanting punishment instead of harm mitigation and myself wanting punishment instead of harm mitigation. I will keep hoping for less overall harm.
I think they wanted to punish someone who didn’t need punishment.
Furthermore, they didn’t have that available a choice. The choice was less harm or more harm.
Because of that, their choice seemed to them like a choice to punish, but it was actually a vote for more harm.
I don’t think they need to be punished for that. I don’t think they deserve to be hurt. In fact it’s one of the things I vote for. Less harm. Every time.
Yes, of course - and pushback is deserved. They’ve fucked up and seemingly deliberately, out of a head-in-the-ass attitude. But there’s nothing to gain from hurting them.
Actually, judging from their actions, I’d expect that hurting them would make them get shittier and I already know they have no idea how to direct their anger properly.
The ideal situation for me is that they find some shame and sit with it and come back after they get their heads out of their ass.
This world is burning so fast that humanity can only slow it down if we put all of our resources towards it.
The largest nations on earth are all heavily armed dictatorships.
Many of them dying might actually be the minimal harm. While we cannot enact judgement on them in good conscience, we can hope they burn and watch it happen.
Trump was actually in power for 4 years and didn’t do shit to help the Middle East. You’re going to hold him accountable for that, right? There’s no double standard where Democrats have to be absolutely perfect, while Republicans can be smearing shit all over the walls and get a total pass, right?
“They voted for Trump to punish the Democrats.”
Oh, that didn’t work. Losing elections isn’t the same as being punished. Not saying it was a bad move, I’m saying it was the wrong one. It was also a bad move though.
“All Harris had to do was stop the war.”
Oh is that it? Just as a VP / figurehead, swoop on over and say, “Stop it.” Man, why hasn’t anyone ever tried that before?
Dearborn, I hope your lives work out ok. You’ve really fucked up.
she was running for president, and they were asking for her to commit if she won. no one expected her to do anything as VP.
That isn’t what the article said, it isn’t even what the rest of the quote I posted said.
And your point? Just because they found an idiot they could quote doesnt make it a wide spread viewpoint. Also if she had won she would have had a lot more clout in the remaining months on policy.
My point is that you’re not making any responses which are relevant here. You’re making inventions out of your assumptions and trying to get other people to talk about those instead of the quote.
But the quote is right there, and it doesn’t matter if you think the actual mayor of Dearborn is an unrepresentative idiot or not, does it? Plenty of other folks disagree, and they’re not on the internet trying to set up straw men to dunk with.
Thats nice. Maybe you should reread the article since its clear that not what the mayor said.
Ah you’re right, the council member.
Okay, I’ve reread it. What part of your comments should make more sense now?
The part were no one was asking her to put an immediate stop the the blood bath. The ask was that she commit to upholding leahy and other American laws w/ respect to a genocidal Israel regime. Im sorry you lack the ability to put comments into context of a larger conversation.
Im sure if you asked the council member to clarify they would have said ‘of course i meant after she was elected’
“We would have voted for Harris if she would just have brought peace to the Middle East!”
…
And cured cancer. That’s all that we need.
…and solved world hunger.
We don’t need anything except peace in the middle east, a cure for cancer, and solutions to world hunger. And that’s it!
You just made me hear Steve Martin.
Ha! Good. I’m glad I pulled it off. I wasn’t sure if it would be obvious or not.
Amazing mashup of The Jerk and the Christmas skit.
Lol it was perfect. All i needed.
…and this lamp…
That tactic was tried in 2016 and failed. The political party isn’t the one getting punished when you vote that way nor does it encourage them to change their ways.
Changing the direction of a political party is a long, drawn out affair that requires sustained political action over the course of years.
I have a feeling a lot of people who voted for Trump are going to be hurt by his policies and they’re going to be completely shocked as though this wasn’t known already. How could they possibly have known the person who bragged about hurting them when elected would actually hurt them when elected? /s
They won’t be shocked. They’ll blame it on liberals and democrats and anyone else who had nothing to do with it… because nothing is ever their fault, it’s always a conspiracy by someone else.
It doesn’t work because both political parties are servants to the same masters. Nothing will ever significantly change as long as that’s true. At least not without protracted hardship.
Someone said something in the YouTube comments of a political video I was watching yesterday that really resonated with me:
“I wish the Democrats could find someone who talks about billionaires the same way Donald Trump talks about immigrants.”
Unlimited money in politics is the poison in our society. When money = speech, billionaires will always have the loudest voice in the room.
I mean, Bernie Sanders is right there…
Yes, but he’s far too old at this point to run. We don’t have anybody on the left who is a rockstar dem-socialist except for maybe AOC, and Democrats are probably not going to run another woman in the race for POTUS for another 50 years after these last two embarrassing defeats, so I wouldn’t get my hopes up for that.
Meanwhile, the right is grooming an entire cadre of Trump’s successors so they can keep the MAGA gravy train rolling long after the evil bastard croaks.
Not just as a VP, but it’s not even our fucking war. She’s going to go stop the war being waged by a sovereign nation? MK then!
I hope it doesnt work out for them. I kind of hope a bunch of them die in a fire because that’s about what it’s going to take for people to start understanding how serious all of this is.
Not really, so many died from COVID and look at us. They’d say the fire was Chinese.
Supposedly some people who were directly impacted did change their minds. Not many proportionally were in that situation though.
Canada just had the first case of human transmission in bird flu. Guess we’ll get to grab some more data to show them.
Except it wasn’t the first human transmission of bird flu. And sadly it won’t be the last. And we’ve got anti-vaxxer Bobby Brain-worm as head of HHS now. H5N1 in humans has a lethality of 50% of those who contract it. Not too much less than Ebola, and a LOT easier to catch.
There’s been multiple cases of human transmission in LA…
My dream schadenfreude scenario is that a hurricane wipes out the Villages in Florida, and it’s bad because Trump privatized NOAA, so no one knew to evacuate, then when they’re picking up the pieces they get hit with a wet bulb event.
By “wet bulb event” do you mean when the wet bulb temperature exceeds around 94 F and you will literally eventually die without air conditioning? Because, yeah, that’s incredibly scary.
We had a couple of those days in Texas this summer.
Yep
I don’t see much of a difference between them wanting punishment instead of harm mitigation and myself wanting punishment instead of harm mitigation. I will keep hoping for less overall harm.
“You’ll be just as bad as them!” is a bad sentiment.
I think they wanted to punish someone who didn’t need punishment.
Furthermore, they didn’t have that available a choice. The choice was less harm or more harm.
Because of that, their choice seemed to them like a choice to punish, but it was actually a vote for more harm.
I don’t think they need to be punished for that. I don’t think they deserve to be hurt. In fact it’s one of the things I vote for. Less harm. Every time.
I just think it’s sad, I don’t need payback.
If you continue to allow people to do bad things with no pushback, bad things will continue to happen.
Yes, of course - and pushback is deserved. They’ve fucked up and seemingly deliberately, out of a head-in-the-ass attitude. But there’s nothing to gain from hurting them.
Actually, judging from their actions, I’d expect that hurting them would make them get shittier and I already know they have no idea how to direct their anger properly.
The ideal situation for me is that they find some shame and sit with it and come back after they get their heads out of their ass.
“Yeah, but who those killers are killing makes a big fucking difference.”
This world is burning so fast that humanity can only slow it down if we put all of our resources towards it.
The largest nations on earth are all heavily armed dictatorships.
Many of them dying might actually be the minimal harm. While we cannot enact judgement on them in good conscience, we can hope they burn and watch it happen.
Trump was actually in power for 4 years and didn’t do shit to help the Middle East. You’re going to hold him accountable for that, right? There’s no double standard where Democrats have to be absolutely perfect, while Republicans can be smearing shit all over the walls and get a total pass, right?
Dearborn, MI did not decide this election.
I don’t care, they still voted for him.
They didn’t. But I didn’t say they did. I said this was a fuck-up.