In the days after Donald Trump was elected president, the 4B feminist movement is capturing young women’s interest on social media.

In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

  • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    13 days ago

    They were acting out before though. The 4B movement is a response to the abuse.

    This is what’s happening, and if you really want to understand it I recommend the book “Controlling People,” by Patricia Evans:

    • Man abuses woman because he feels loved when he violates her boundaries (instead of showing love by respecting boundaries in a healthy relationship)
    • She asserts boundaries (a limit on her own self) as part of the human condition
    • He then amplifies abuse to punish her for breaking from his control and for having boundaries, because it made him feel too separate and not enmeshed, which causes attachment wounds

    They are mad they can’t literally abuse us into submission like Andrew Tate claims. They are mad we aren’t stupid and easy to manipulate, like they’d been lead to believe. They are jealous of beauty and happiness because they are so miserable because men lack community that is kind to women. And that’s all of ya’lls fault. Instead you made manipulative PUA groups.

    They will keep amplifying their abuse, like literally all abusers (see: Why Does He Do That?) until we are dead or they are in jail. It doesn’t even matter if we behave “well,” all that matters to them is that we feed their ego of control and entitlement over us.

    No. You don’t have to do that so neither will I.

    Why don’t you warm up that guy yourself? A hole is a hole, right? Why don’t you suck off these on the fence guys to win them over? I’m sure there are plenty of bi and gay ones you can convince.

    • Jax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      22·
      13 days ago

      Ah yes, because women can’t be abusive.

      The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is now. If people like you continue to neglect the conditions that lead to young men being brainwashed by red pill, manosphere bullshit - things are going to get a whole lot worse before they get better.

      I don’t really care to read anything that paints men as abusive controllers. I’m interested in making things better, not making things worse.

      • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        32·
        13 days ago

        If people like you continue to neglect the conditions that lead to young men being brainwashed by red pill, manosphere bullshit

        What are you doing for this? Show me some screenshots from socials of your work there. I’ll accept even 1 comment in the last 2 weeks of you reaching out to a fellow guy debunking redpill content.

        • Jax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          21·
          13 days ago

          Remember, when Trump’s Youth doesn’t seem to be getting any weaker with each passing year - you did your part.

          • LustyArgonian@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            13 days ago

            Wait so you can’t post any proof, not even a comment you made on social, of you speaking to a fellow man about redpill or manosphere content, to specifically stop them from being rightwing?

            You can scroll through my entire comment history and can find me educating men about feminism constantly for free. Talk about unpaid women’s labor. It’s not me who didn’t do the work.

            Yet again blaming women for the abuse of men. Literal victim blaming. Nice. Have you thought about how your actions drive women away?

            • Jax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              11·
              8 days ago

              I’m sorry, I should have responded to this:

              ‘WhErE’s YoUr PrOoF’

              God, I don’t care how morally pious you think you are. There’s a very clear path that led us here, you helped pave it. I don’t use social media outside of Lemmy, with the occasional query for Reddit when I need help with a hobby.

              Imagine being so terminally online that you, within very few keystrokes of one another, go “PrOvE iT” while suggesting that I should sift through your trash opinions - completely ignoring that you can do the same with mine.

              The world is going to get worse. Wake the fuck up and realize why or perish, I don’t care which.

              Edit: no that wasn’t fair, I’ll let you RAFO.

              Edit 2: Oooooh, you’re a sealion! Great, I’ve got you tagged now.