Here’s the problem: Trump is out to maximize environmental damage
[https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/01/climate/trump-environment-election.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Wk4._J7T.ULvq-YGfijD4&smid=url-share]
and the US Green Party runs as spoilers. Let’s look at three scenarios: Scenario
1: Harris: 1001 votes Trump: 1000 votes Stein: 0 votes Harris wins — Scenario 2:
Harris: 1000 votes Trump: 1000 votes Stein: 1 vote Tied vote, which goes to the
courts and Congress, putting Trump in power — Scenario 3: Harris: 999 votes
Trump: 1000 votes Stein: 2 votes Trump wins outright — This spoiler effect makes
it really imperative to actively vote for Harris if you want to see any kind of
climate action going forward. Republicans know this, which is why they’re the
ones funding the Green Party
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2024/10/24/jill-stein-super-pac-republican-ties/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzI5NzQyNDAwLCJpc3MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzMxMTI4Mzk5LCJpYXQiOjE3Mjk3NDI0MDAsImp0aSI6ImE3ZDNiMGY1LTYyMTItNDQ1Zi04ZTk2LWFmMDNlZWI3MGRiNiIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8vd3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9lbGVjdGlvbnMvMjAyNC8xMC8yNC9qaWxsLXN0ZWluLXN1cGVyLXBhYy1yZXB1YmxpY2FuLXRpZXMvIn0.bl_oZgUzjpyUnJeQXJnWeMpM6IwGGPtXH1zl0KjdGK0].
And that’s why the European Greens want Jill Stein to step down now — they get
that what she’s doing is making it easier to elect a fascist bent on
environmental destruction.
Seem like not endorsing the government or the blue party will get you banned for trolling at [email protected]
In electoral college and winner-takes-it-all systems (like the one in use in that election) votes for candidates not endorsed by large groups of voters have no effect on the outcome. You can lie to yourself, but this is not a European country. If a party doesn’t get a huge group of voters committed long before the election, it’s over for them.
Yes, people can vote for whoever they like, but only two options ultimately count. The rest is basically discarded on the electors stage.
In electoral college and winner-takes-it-all systems (like the one in use in that election) votes for candidates not endorsed by large groups of voters have no effect on the outcome. You can lie to yourself, but this is not a European country. If a party doesn’t get a huge group of voters committed long before the election, it’s over for them.
Yes, people can vote for whoever they like, but only two options ultimately count. The rest is basically discarded on the electors stage.
i think 2016 jill stein voters are owed an apology then. and the 2000 nader voters
All it takes for a party to get a huge group of voters is a pop start with a huge group of fans endorsing the party
And this will never happen in the US, which is in dire need of an election reform.