• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      He doesn’t, neither does Kamala…

      So why get mad at someone who’s line isnt the same place as yours?

      You can tell at them to throw their morals out the window, or unite with them and demand just a little more than the bare minimum you would accept

      Why is no one allowed to ask for anything more than your bare minimum? And why would you risk trump to not help get more?

      I don’t logically understand your position, I understand what it is, just not why it’s your position.

      Can you elaborate on how this:

      just speaking from positions of privilege because they don’t personally have as much on the line. I just find it hard to sympathize with that perspective.

      Isn’t applicable to you wanting people to ignore genocide? In some cases where it’s literally their close family over there as the victims?

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          Then why even have this argument?

          Because if instead of spending time and effort trying to convince voters to lower their morals…

          We’d be better off uniting to hold Kamala to a higher standard, because then we’d stop trump, and get more of what we want.

          I’m not sure what’s confusing about this.

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              1 year ago

              That’s literally the opposite of what you did and that last reply was just insults…

              Have fun acting like that, if you’re wondering why more and more people stop replying, it’s because they’re blocking you because of how you behave.

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                  Sorry but I’m gonna be really passionate now: USE YOUR FUCKING BRAIN FOR FUCK’S SAKE!

                  The simplest easiest way for you to “remain alive” as you claim to care for (frankly I bet it’s bullshit, but lets proceed under the assumption you have failed to analyse the subject from a strategical viewpoint rather than that you’re a disgusting tribalist liar) is for Kamala to change her position, not for millions of people to change theirs and this goes double next election because voting Kamala now “because Trump” isn’t going to solve the problem for the next election since it’s yet another “just this time” that doesn’t change people’s opinion of the Democrats nor does it challange their politics and hence doesn’t change the trend, but the Democrat leadership pivoting away from their trend of getting closer to Fascism (so far only abroad) has long term implications (that will save many lives, probably including yours if your claim is genuine, in the next decade or two) unless they pivot again.

                  So you should be fighting like crazy for the Democrat leadership to change their stand, and should have been doing it for 6 months already, unlike being an useful idiot like the ones who were defending Biden 6 months ago with exactly the same arguments as you use now, so he felt secure enough in power to send 2000lb bombs to Israel (which the US Military refuses to use because of their massive collateral damage) which Israel used on residential areas in Gaza and Lebanon killing thousands of civilians, so now these people (which might include you if you too were defending Biden like this back then) have the blood of hundreds of children on their hands.

                  No matter how you cut it the Moral standpoint of “I will not support the enablers of the mass murder of children” is always far above the one of “I don’t want to risk my own life” - even the most disgusting of sociopaths cares about their own life.

                  So stop preaching the supporting of the enblers of mass murder because “poor me” from the top of that bloody pile of children’s bones which at best you’ve naivelly confused with a moral high horse and at worst knowingly sat on top of whilst supporting your tribe like the worst kind of sociopath.

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                  1 year ago

                  I am tired of having this debate over and over

                  Don’t lie to us, you live for this shit.

                  If you were truly tired of it you would go touch grass instead of focusing on how to be the biggest contrarian in the thread.