• hperrin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    2 months ago

    In the context that I’m explaining that the thing is deterministic. Do you disagree? Because that was my point. Diffusion models are deterministic.

    • stephen01king@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      That’s as much deterministic as tracing someone’s artwork, really.

      If you have to use a different creation process than how someone would normally create the artwork, whether legitimate or using AI, then it’s not really a criticism of that method in the first place.

      I was seriously thinking you found a way to get similar enough results to another person’s AI output just from knowing the prompt. That would actually prove that AI artwork require zero effort to reproduce.

      Edit: To expand on that 1st prargrpah, yes, AI is deterministic as much as a drawing tablet and app is deterministic, that is if you copy exactly what another person does using the tool, it will produce the same result.

      • hperrin@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        You might be able to copy one stroke of a pen exactly, but the thousands or tens of thousands of strokes it takes to paint a painting? Like, yeah, you can copy a painting “close enough”, but it’s not exactly the same, because paint isn’t deterministic.

        As far as making a “close enough” copy that isn’t exactly the same with AI, you can just use any image as the input image and set the denoising strength to like .1. Then you’ll get basically the same image but it’ll have a different checksum. So if you wanna steal art, AI makes it way easier.

        There’s not really any human creativity in this process, or even using your own prompts, which is the whole point behind the copyright office denying this guy’s copyright claim. Maybe you could copyright your prompt, if it’s detailed enough.