“These attacks violate the human right to life, absent any indication that the victims posed an imminent lethal threat to anyone else at the time.”

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    Israel deserves criticism for indiscriminately bombing the general location where terrorists live, and accepting that civilian casualties are part of the deal, but then people continue to criticize a sophisticated and precision attack against the enemy combatants with an absolute minimum of civilian casualties. Seems like people think Israel has no right to defend itself at all, and makes you wonder if it’s just good old fashioned anti semitism.

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      Sure let’s ignore the whole in a country they aren’t at war with thing.

      I don’t know what country you live in but if someone bombed my neighborhood to take out a single person people would be rightly outraged.

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        If I were Lebanon I’d be pretty annoyed, but they also aren’t really doing anything about the terrorists using their country as a base, so I also can’t blame Israel for taking matters into their own hands.

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          I can’t help but notice Israel isn’t doing anything about the illegal settlements, the settlers, or the settlers that keep murdering Palestinians while the IDF watches and on occasion helps.

          Should Lebanon be cleared to kill civilians with explosives in illegal settlements?

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            Are the illegal settlements on land belonging to Lebanese citizens? What do they have to do with the settlements? Or are you saying that the terrorists living in Gaza are actually from Lebanon?

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              What does that have to do with anything? Lebanon also doesn’t belong to Israel. He’s making the argument that you can’t bomb a SOVEREIGN country just because you want to take out someone you don’t like. If someone from Hezbollah went to Turkey would Israel bomb them there? I’d like to see them try. But it would never happen because Israel is a bully and only picks on the weak.

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                Lebanon is fully involved in this conflict. Hezbollah is entrenched there and arguably the Hezbollah military is stronger than the official Lebanese armed forces. Lebanon can’t or won’t evict the sworn enemies of Israel, and I don’t blame Israel for taking matters into their own hands. And yes they probably would feel the need to coordinate with Turkey or get their permission before trying something similar.

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                  Yes, like I said, they go full steam ahead on their weak neighbor but would respectfully ask for permission from the strong one. We all know what a coward is. What’s your point?

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    Does launching rockets at Israel violate international law?

    Did the kids killed by rockets in a soccer field pose an imminent lethal threat?

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      I’m gonna put you in a cage, feed you at a minimum and beat you every day.

      When you gonna bite me out of despair, I will unleash all my fury on you, your family and your friends saying to everyone it’s YOUR FAULT this is happening.

      Find what’s wrong in that little story and your eyes might open up.

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        That won’t happen because he’d have to recognize both actors as human beings. You’re missing the basic premise of Zionism. Zionism comes from the assumption that Palestinians are not human beings so they are never supposed to fight back, just take any abuse and be happy with it and die when they’re told to. Like farm animals. If a cow is being branded and kills her handler she will be caught and put down. Nobody is going to justify what she did even though she just defended herself.

        This is how Zionists view Palestinians. Making arguments about humanity with them is moot because they don’t recognize Palestinians as such. Like Nazism, you can’t solve this problem until this hateful ideology is rooted out from the core.

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            But its beef with Israel is because of Palestinians. Even so, I should’ve said Arabs. Israel’s problem is with Arabs in general, Palestinians just happen to be the easiest target.

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              When Hezbollah launched rockets at Israel on Oct 8, it wasn’t because Hezbollah was in “despair” or because Israel had put Hezbollah “in a cage” or because Hezbollah had “a minimum of food”.

              Hezbollah wanted to start a fight with Israel. And it got one.

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                Would you agree in characterizing SOME of the settlers in the West Bank as terrorists? Would that justify bombing all Israelis there?

                You just made my point.

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                  Bombing by who? Hezbollah? No, because those settlers aren’t operating in Lebanon.

                  Yours is the same reasoning Russia used to justify invading Ukraine. Even if SOME people in Azov can be characterized as fascists, as long as Azov remains in Ukraine there is no justification for Russia to attack them.

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      It’s international law. Which means it’s not just israel who doesn’t have to care. But also the UK, Germany, and of course the US especially the Democrat Biden administration.