good idea/bad idea, necessary democratic reform or authoritarian imposition? are there better or worse ways to do it?

  • Monkey With A Shell@lemmy.socdojo.com
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    3 months ago

    Do you really want to force cousin cleatus to be involved in the leadership decisions for the country? There are entirely too many people out there with zero clue what the issues of the day even are much less to have an informed opinion on them outside what the nice person in the interwebs/TV told them is the answer.

    • alyaza [they/she]@beehaw.orgOPM
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      3 months ago

      i find this a very unpersuasive argument in any context because—if you actually believe it—it’s essentially an argument for bringing back literacy/intelligence testing in voting. and i’m sure i don’t need to tell you about the long history of that being used to disenfranchise the “wrong” people for the crime of having a certain skintone or believing in equal rights for everyone; to say nothing of other ethical issues with the notion.

      • Monkey With A Shell@lemmy.socdojo.com
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        3 months ago

        You’re mixing two opposite issues there, the literacy tests you mention where in an effort to exclude people from voting.

        In this this topic your asking if we should FORCE the uninformed and disinterested to vote.

        These are anything but the same.

        • alyaza [they/she]@beehaw.orgOPM
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          3 months ago

          the literacy tests you mention where in an effort to exclude people from voting.

          yes, which was justified with the notion of there supposedly being people who were “too uneducated” or “not-literate enough” to make decisions for themselves and therefore deserve an equal right to vote—which is the same underlying sentiment of “Do you really want to force cousin cleatus to be involved in the leadership decisions for the country?”

          • Monkey With A Shell@lemmy.socdojo.com
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            3 months ago

            No, it’s not. Forcing someone who is not knowledgeable or interested to vote is in no way the same as testing whether someone is educated to determine if they should be allowed to.