Every reputable place I ever served at had front of house tip out the service staff.
Can we leave these shit memes by people who’ve never worked in the food industry (but get butthurt social conventions suggest you tip) and the resulting awful cavalcade of tired, predictable responses back on reddit?
I have worked in very reputable places and none of that tip would reach the cooks. If we were lucky they would pay us a beer at the club later. I think it’s regional though. I know in Quebec waiters won’t share because the government assume they get 15% tip from everything bill and taxes them accordingly.
Tips are imputed and taxed from sales in the US too.
That sucks. I did work at one place where the percentages weren’t set and it made for some friction because not every server tipped out BOH/ support at the same rate. The best places I worked set minimum percentages (ie, 5% to kitchen, 3% to dishwashers, etc which ended up being 15% of your sales) and got could go above if you wanted such as if the kitchen saved your ass. It made for better morale. I worked at a couple places where it was a free for all and BOH/FOH were always fighting and turnover was high
Doesn’t sound very reputable. Sounds like a Buffalo Wild Wings.
I’ve been in the restaurant industry for over 15 years and the least I ever had to tip out to the kitchen was 2.5%. Never, did they not get tipped out.
Also, I’m not complaining, I love the back of house, but don’t spread bullshit cause you had a bad go
You made good money because of guilt tripping people into tipping 20% instead of demanding your employer pays you, and crying on social media about how waiters make almost nothing.
The entire reason people tip is out of sympathy, and restaurant workers really weaponized that. Instead of having trouble with your employer not paying you, you joined forces with them.
For the record I tip reasonably, but I find it crazy that restaurant workers do this.
I guarantee I think (and thought) about tipping a fuck of a lot less than you do. I’d get stiffed on occasion, but in general my job was to allow customers to relax and facilitate they have a good time. It always shook out by the end of the night and I barely kept track of who tipped what unless it was really outside of standard deviation one direction or the other. It’s gauche as fuck to hint at a tip or even look at the slip while in view of guests.
Know who tips the best? Other servers. I and others who knew each other in those circles tipped one another 50+% when we’d patronize one another. We probably passed the same batch of money around. Of course we were usually comped rounds of drinks and appetizers, so… surprise surprise, the night out cost the same anyway, but we didn’t get shitty and cheap trying to game the system.
Also, these are the social contract seas we swim in, smoothbrain. You think someone at an upscale establishment is going to stick it to the man by walking out? I have problems with capitalism as a whole, but you and yours seem to think servers (and I’d be willing to bet other “unskilled” workers by your definition) don’t deserve adequate compensation? I didn’t come up with this system, but it’s what we’ve got and there’s an elegance to it if you don’t get all butthurt. You’d pay what you’re paying plus tip one way or another. Grow a pair and stiff your server if you’re that annoyed. I’d respect that more than you being a keyboard warrior after folding and having a clenched asshole for feeling obligated to give a server 15%
There is a really easy way for you to get what you want and not play into this system: stay home. No one wants to socialize with you out getting drinks anyway
And yet this sounds exactly like the kind of “more righteous than thou” condescending comment I saw on reddit all the time. But when you’re doing it, it’s alright, yeah?
Every reputable place I ever served at had front of house tip out the service staff.
Can we leave these shit memes by people who’ve never worked in the food industry (but get butthurt social conventions suggest you tip) and the resulting awful cavalcade of tired, predictable responses back on reddit?
That’s your experience.
I have worked in very reputable places and none of that tip would reach the cooks. If we were lucky they would pay us a beer at the club later. I think it’s regional though. I know in Quebec waiters won’t share because the government assume they get 15% tip from everything bill and taxes them accordingly.
Tips are imputed and taxed from sales in the US too.
That sucks. I did work at one place where the percentages weren’t set and it made for some friction because not every server tipped out BOH/ support at the same rate. The best places I worked set minimum percentages (ie, 5% to kitchen, 3% to dishwashers, etc which ended up being 15% of your sales) and got could go above if you wanted such as if the kitchen saved your ass. It made for better morale. I worked at a couple places where it was a free for all and BOH/FOH were always fighting and turnover was high
Doesn’t sound very reputable. Sounds like a Buffalo Wild Wings.
I’ve been in the restaurant industry for over 15 years and the least I ever had to tip out to the kitchen was 2.5%. Never, did they not get tipped out.
Also, I’m not complaining, I love the back of house, but don’t spread bullshit cause you had a bad go
I have worked at a Michelin one star and a two star and neither tipped the kitchen.
Your experiences sound great but they are not the norm that I experienced.
Yeah, well you should get paid properly or something.
Haven’t been in that industry in years but I made more doing that than I do in my current job a decade later.
Service chews your body up so I left
You made good money because of guilt tripping people into tipping 20% instead of demanding your employer pays you, and crying on social media about how waiters make almost nothing.
The entire reason people tip is out of sympathy, and restaurant workers really weaponized that. Instead of having trouble with your employer not paying you, you joined forces with them.
For the record I tip reasonably, but I find it crazy that restaurant workers do this.
Hah. No.
I guarantee I think (and thought) about tipping a fuck of a lot less than you do. I’d get stiffed on occasion, but in general my job was to allow customers to relax and facilitate they have a good time. It always shook out by the end of the night and I barely kept track of who tipped what unless it was really outside of standard deviation one direction or the other. It’s gauche as fuck to hint at a tip or even look at the slip while in view of guests.
Know who tips the best? Other servers. I and others who knew each other in those circles tipped one another 50+% when we’d patronize one another. We probably passed the same batch of money around. Of course we were usually comped rounds of drinks and appetizers, so… surprise surprise, the night out cost the same anyway, but we didn’t get shitty and cheap trying to game the system.
Also, these are the social contract seas we swim in, smoothbrain. You think someone at an upscale establishment is going to stick it to the man by walking out? I have problems with capitalism as a whole, but you and yours seem to think servers (and I’d be willing to bet other “unskilled” workers by your definition) don’t deserve adequate compensation? I didn’t come up with this system, but it’s what we’ve got and there’s an elegance to it if you don’t get all butthurt. You’d pay what you’re paying plus tip one way or another. Grow a pair and stiff your server if you’re that annoyed. I’d respect that more than you being a keyboard warrior after folding and having a clenched asshole for feeling obligated to give a server 15%
There is a really easy way for you to get what you want and not play into this system: stay home. No one wants to socialize with you out getting drinks anyway
Real “the system can’t be bad, I’ve had nothing but good interaction with cops” energy.
Tipping as an institution is an outright scam with a rich history of systematic racism.
Racist? I’m not trying to make a bad faith argument, but… what?
Dude. No one’s forcing you to eat out. Don’t if you don’t want to pay into that system (or just stiff if tipping as an institution is satanic to you)
Lol someone pointed out that lemmy.world are just reddit users infesting the federation and I can’t unsee it when I read comments like this.
And yet this sounds exactly like the kind of “more righteous than thou” condescending comment I saw on reddit all the time. But when you’re doing it, it’s alright, yeah?
Reddit users are fucking insufferable and low quality trolls 90% of the time and comments like this prove it.