• AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    Just like Capitalism you aren’t going to find any examples of the system in the world today

    About to have my brain turned into soup by asking this question:

    Are you implying that there are no examples of capitalism in the world today?

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      2 months ago

      Yeah, what country rewards jobs based on hours worked rather than assets owned?

      What people refer to as “late-stage capitalism” is no different than the system capitalism was supposed to replace

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        Just because it is (and always was) a complete lie that capitalism would lead to prosperity for working people, that doesn’t mean that capitalists aren’t doing capitalism. Capitalism hasn’t been corrupted from some ideal system into something else, this is what capitalism is and it’s been known as such for over a century and a half.

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          Since the beginning but not because that’s what capitalism is, it’s because the mercantilist lords wanted a rebrand when peasants started killing them

          If a country decided to switch to communism, that elite rebrand would still happen. Animal Farm paints this, China having more inequality than Japan or South Korea also paints this it’s what allows people to say true capitalism has never been tested and the elite can exploit that to increase inequality

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              You’re even aware you don’t have an argument so you went after the author’s character which is irrelevant then started talking about the cia

              As per the original point: you’re inability to understand that the rich are greedy doesn’t mean they aren’t

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                Since the beginning but not because that’s what capitalism is, it’s because the mercantilist lords wanted a rebrand when peasants started killing them

                That’s not what happened. It was the burghers themselves who revolted against the feudal lords. The peasants didn’t revolt against the burghers: some were uninvolved and I assume some aided the burghers against the feudal lords who owned the land they tilled. These were bourgeois revolutions.

                And capitalism is not a mere “rebranding,” it is a very different socio-politico-economic system from feudalism, though yes, it is still one based on class hierarchy. The ultimate goal of communism is to eliminate hierarchies: a classless society.

                China having more inequality than Japan or South Korea also paints this

                It is true that China has billionaires. It is also true that China has raised 800 million people out of poverty, “the greatest such effort in history.”

                If a country decided to switch to communism, that elite rebrand would still happen.

                Do you see CPC members boating around the world on megayachts? The “elite” in China—if you want to call the democratically elected representatives “elite”—are not fabulously wealthy, despite the fact that, if they wanted to, they could literally print as many Yuan as they pleased and pocket it. The billionaires are capitalists, in the constrained amount of capitalism the Chinese state currently allows.

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                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_peasant_revolts

                  Here’s a list of peasant revolts for you to browse through, take note of those through the 16-18th centuries

                  Do you see CPC members boating around the world on megayachts? The “elite” in China—if you want to call the democratically elected representatives “elite”—are not fabulously wealthy

                  As shown in proof above; China has bigger inequality than Japan and South Korea.

                  China also has the second most billionaires in the world

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                    This is just getting silly now.

                    Here’s a list of peasant revolts for you to browse through, take note of those through the 16-18th centuries

                    The fact that peasant revolts happened is neither here nor there. The point is that capitalism was borne of bourgeois revolutions against feudal powers and not of peasant revolts against burghers who were a product of mercantilism.

                    As shown in proof above; China has bigger inequality than Japan and South Korea.

                    Thanks for repeating yourself I guess?