So I need some realtalk by Lemmie’s resident stoners and possibly medical professionals on the benefits and risks/harms of vaping cannabis refill things on the respiratory system (using a rechargeable vape pen/battery thingy at the lowest heat setting).
Give it to me straight docs, whats up and how long do I have to live if I use it infrequently but potentially daily in small amounts?
Have you considered vaping flower instead of oil?
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I refuse carts anymore but have never felt the same level of worry with dry herb vaping.
Seems to me that edibles are safer than vaping or smoking.
in theory its edibles, dry herb vape, concentrate vape, smoking, ghetto offline pen vape (in terms of safety)
You are absolutely correct
A friend and I have developed some popcorn lung from cartridge vaping too much, but it was unusually heavy usage at an entire gram in a week. Most people can make a gram last more than a month and never encounter issues.
Heating element seems to have something to do with it. Most of those cartridges are cotton heating elements, but occasionally ceramic ones do exist. Ceramic or a quartz dish on a proper dab rig have never given me trouble.
More likely to be lipid pneumonia than popcorn lung. That’s a very specific flavoring that causes that.
unusually heavy usage at an entire gram in a week
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I would recommend strongly against inhaling any oil containing product. Your lungs do not have much surfactant and they cannot deal with it.
Doesn’t uhh weed contain oil?
Yeah, I was making a general statement. The big problem is THC is only oil/alcohol soluble, so if you’re using a vape product you’re not only inhaling the natural oil in the plant, you’re inhaling what they used to dissolve that oil out of the plant. Compare that to nicotine, which in its freebase form dissolves in water. There’s a significant difference between the dangers in weed vapes and nicotine vapes due to that reason, they’re essentially different products with different risks. All of that said, you could reduce the amount of oil by putting a surfactant and creating an emulsion for your vape, but I don’t really know what manufacturers are doing, because I don’t smoke weed.
edit: https://www.wikihow.com/Make-Cannabis-Oil-for-Vape-Pens
This is an example of what I’m talking about. They’re recommending using terpes(an alcohol that is insoluble with water) instead of glycerol(an alcohol that acts as a surfactant). They’re also giving a guide on how you extract ALL the oils in the plant. If you’re not careful, you’re going to end up with more oil than you want and they’ll form big globs in your lungs and not make it to your blood stream. This leads to inflammation and lipoid pneumonia. The fix for that is a very unpleasant lavage, or washing, of your lungs.Ohh yeah I 100% agree then, the wikihow method is a bit of the diy at home crackhead way, but usually its extracting via butane or co2 in professional production, which both are volatile in oxygen and so if professionally handled can be entirely safe.
The issue arrises when manufactures try to add things for flavour and viscosity, which there’s little regulation for and can cause problems.
But inhaling vaporuized oil specifically isn’t too harmful, even if it solidifies in your lungs out lungs are fairly well designed to remove foreign contaminants, its another question whether they were designed to do this daily tho
edit: that’s cool about nic tho, I’m only a stoner so I know weed best, but it’d be so easy to extract (tho I wonder if polar substances tend to be less volatile with the intermolecular forced holding things together)
Skip inhalants altogether. Long term lung damage isn’t worth it, even if it’s not as carcinogenic as normal smoking.
Just go with edibles.
I figured as much. Shit
Just do your research, know the difference between CBD, delta 8/9 THC, HHC, etc and i would recommend filling up your own cartridge if you want to be sure you know what is going into it, most places have lab tests so you know theres nothing bad in it. I’ve been filling an NRG-S with ceramic coils and carts with HHC from highlyconcentr8ed, never had any issues after several months of vaping it as much as possible.
Inhalants in general are not good for you. Vaping introduces water, smoking introduces ash/smoke. There are no benefits to vaping or smoking. Unless you are being prescribed it by a doctor. I mean drugs are not good for you. But if you are going to, your body can usually deal with it well with moderation. Edibles are better than inhalants.
These answers are so unhelpful Imo. It just states the obvious and doesn’t answer OPs question. Everyone knows drugs or inhaling stuff is not the healthy optimum. OP is just looking for the least harmful way.
I did. Edibles in moderation. They wanted it straight, and that’s what I said.
Least harmful way for cannabis is probably edibles
Which is what I said, lol :) agreed
