Little bothered that Tim Russ said “bias” instead of “biased”
I hope somebody replied with “hi bias, I’m dad”
This is a pet peeve of mine
A peeve of mine is the term “pet peeve”. 😅
If something bothers you so, why the fuck would you keep, nurture, and tend to it as a pet?
I propose it change to haunting peeve, because you don’t want it, can’t get rid of it, and it exists regardless if you think about it or not.
😁 (I’m not super serious about this, but “pet peeve” really does low-key bother me)
I can support this
Omg you are an actual person. Every time I see your username under a post I, for whatever reason, think it’s the community name.
I’ve seen a lot of your posts I think 😅 thanks for what you do! 🫡
(No it didn’t register that I replied to you until I went back to look… I don’t really -see- usernames)
I am, and thanks! Beep boop, I like sharing memes. Just doing my part to help Lemmy grow.
I like that you like sharing memes, because I’ve come across them enough to think you are a community unto yourself.
I like sorting by new to report garbage and interact with things that would otherwise die, also to help Lemmy grow! It’s lonely in new but… i get to report a lot of weird stuff… so there’s that 🫠
Thank you for your service, soldier. That’s the kind of stuff Lemmy needs!
it’s actually short for petite peeve, because it’s something small and unimportant. Or maybe it’s not, but you don’t know.
It’s partly a joke (your favourite peeve, for example) and probably a reference to the other, now archaic, meaning of pet:
fit of peevishness, offense or ill-humor at feeling slighted
I think you can accept idioms as they are or you’ll be endlessly feeling like one saying or another has got your goat
You must have missed the part that says I’m not really serious.
I’m a little bias short and stout, here is my handle here is my spout
No, you see he is the literal human embodiment of the concept of bias and was letting us know. The other tweets are unrelated
It’s true, that’s why his role as Tuvok was so impressive. The exact opposite of type casting
They separated Tuvix on the bias and Tim got more of him.
I’ve noticed that grammar error a lot on the Internet. Bias is discussed frequently as a topic of popular rage-bait posts.
FYI for those people: “bias” is a noun that is the thing, and “biased” is an adjective that describes a person who has the bias. “The biased person showed their bias” for example.
It’s definitely one of the more common ones. I see that alot
If you understand someone well enough to correct them, you didn’t have to.
Just because you understand someone well enough to correct them doesn’t mean everyone else will
Just because you understand them well enough today doesn’t mean you will tomorrow
We should all be striving to be better than we are, not breeding resentment from contentment
Just because you understand someone well enough to correct them doesn’t mean everyone else will
Then they should ask for clarification.
Just because you understand them well enough today doesn’t mean you will tomorrow
At which point you can ask for clarification.
We should all be striving to be better than we are, not breeding resentment from contentment
And part of “better” is having the perspective and desire to avoid pedantry where it’s not needed.
We’re clearly not going to agree here. Plenty of people would rather be made aware of their mistakes and that’s no less valid than your point of view. Personally I would rather avoid potential misunderstandings than deal with them after the fact. I’m not the only one who feels that way.
Just because … doesn’t mean …
I hate this extragrammatical idiom so much.
But given that colloquial usage trumps all else when it comes to driving the evolution of language, most people could care less.
Interesting choice given the way that’s been shifting slowly back to the more accurate form in the past however many years.
If colloquial usage did trump all, irregardless would’ve been acknowledged as a correct word well before I was born. It may be the driving force but it’s hardly the only, or even constantly deciding, factor
Autocorrect ducks for us all.
Yeah, what’s the deal with that. Yes, the two sound similar, but saying “I’m bias” is like saying “I’m anger” instead of “I’m angry” or “I’m sadness” instead of “I’m sad”.
It’s like the “would of” people. They don’t hear it in speech so they type it how it sounds to them.
Or it’s autocorrect
For people over a certain age I always assume they’re using text to speech and don’t worry about going back and correcting it. My wife is somehow always talking to someone else in the room while she dictates to her watch, so I have a lot of fun interpreting her texts.
only because it makes him look like he learned to read on tumblr
Or X(Twitter) or Reddit or Facebook or…
Tumblr is an offender but let’s not pretend it’s the only one
don’t fucking get sensitive
Seems like it’s a bit of a sensitive spot for you…
stupidity absolutely is, every time i encounter it
So like on Twitter and Reddit and Tumblr and Facebook and…
take your hokey religion someplace else, son this street corner is taken
Unrelated to Trek, one of my favorite Twitch streams was watching AOC play Among Us with Ilhan Omar, Canadian MP Jagmeet Singh, and a bunch of YouTubers like Jack Septiceye and ContraPoints. The way Omar would giggle every time she killed somebody was adorable.
Didn’t Omar take a couple of rounds as the imposter, too?
She was straight up excellent.
Concerningly excellent, as someone who lives in Minnesota, lol.
Remember this cool stuff? Now it’s just a fascist site with RW morons trying to out-nazi each other.
Janeway leads with focus on her mission - to get her crew home
I don’t believe that AOC has seen more than about three episodes of Voyager. If she had seen at least three, the statistical likelihood that she would have seen one where Janeway yanks the crew into some conflict they have absolutely no business involving themselves in would approach 100%
yanks the crew into some conflict they have absolutely no business involving themselves
That’s all of Star Trek.
In fact, that’s almost all of most of the space drama series.
Well yes, but when Janeway does it, we mind. Because… reasons…
Poor statement of her mission. IIRC Janeway says pretty clearly in one of the first episodes that they’re still going to carry out their duty as a Starfleet ship to seek out new life and new civilizations, boldly go, etc. That’s their mission, and getting home is an important part but not all of it.
God fuck you Trekkies are insufferable.
Says someone calling themselves a woke hobbit …
I think Equinox was a really good story about what a starfleet crew looks like if they abandon their principles in order to get home.
By Trek’s logic, Tuvix’s identical copy lives in an alternative universe of some sort. And that’s really the only way to justify all this.
Ed: Also the “Oh wait, they can’t speak so someone has to speak for them” has some interesting implications, doesn’t it.
Dude. Mirror universe tuvix. Gets the imagination going.
He’s Tuvix … but sexy!
Surely they also have a copy of his pattern in the transporter buffer.
that pattern buffer is a plot hole big enough to show a Klingon Battle Cruiser a good time
Trek has no true multiverse in the modern sense of the concept. It’s more of a single-timeline with occasional aberrations. It has the occasional “alternate timeline”, but almost always uses the concept that those are temporary and collapse once the “real” timeline is restored - unless some important event or other metaphysical technobabble causes them to remain stable.
The only major examples of timelines that didn’t seem to vanish after the protagonists had left are the Mirror Universe and the Kelvin Timeline. There are little pocket loops here and there, but by and large it seems that there is One True Timeline that can be reshaped, but doesn’t branch endlessly.
That said, you gotta figure that the Mirror Universe version of Tuvix got wind of the plan to split him in half and did some splitting of his own.
I don’t even think that the Mirror Universe version of Tuvix could happen. The only reason that Voyager was stranded was Janeways insistence of not letting the Kazon control the Caretakers Array/Kill the Ocampans. In the Mirror Universe, would that even happen? Either Janeway takes everyone back or they use the Array to control that section of the Delta Quadrant.
Mirror universe Janeway would use the caretaker technology to conquer the Delta Quadrant and become the Borg queen without even being assimilated.
Also relevant: When Kate Mulgrew surprised everyone at an AOC campaign speech before she got elected.
That link isn’t working for me. Am I the only one?
The fact that it is still widely discussed even after so many years, proves is such a great episode with a great moral dilemma.
Whether they chose is the right choice or not, I can not say.
But from a story perspective, all I can say is that I didn’t really like the character of Tuvix, too whiney and weird. While Neelix may not be everyone’s favourite, Tuvok definitely was an excellent addition to the team. So for my enjoyment, they did make the right choice.
see now that is what the social medias are actually good for
The needs of the many…
Don’t know how I missed this one. Thanks for digging it up buddy. Amazing stuff. ♥️
Has anyone ever asked Tom Wright what he thinks about it?
When you read the script for the episode Tuvix, or when you watched the show, what was your conclusion on the ethical problem? I thought it was wrong of them to kill Tuvix. Nelix and Tuvok were dead, killing Tuvix to bring them back was murder. Im interested in your opinion.
There was a small voice inside of me that agrees with you but I also knew that if I had two loved ones that would disappear forever, I might have to make an unpleasant but necessary choice. It remains an interesting dilemma.
two loved ones
Eh, calling Neelix a “loved one” is a bit of a stretch.
I will not stand for this Neelix slander. He is a loved one and is wonderful. Maybe too colorful at times, maybe tried too hard at times, but did his best and was a fabulous addition to the crew.
Indeed, for what was such a dark, dangerous journey at times it was nice to have someone around who brings some pep.
Who’s/What’s Tuvix?
Further to the link. Tuvix is a character in star trek voyager. There is a transporter accident that ends up welding 2 other characters (Lieutenant Tuvok, Neelix) into 1 individual. The episode is spent trying to resolve this issue.
By the end, Captain Janeway is given a solution. They can reverse the process and recover Tuvok and Neelix. Unfortunately this will destroy Tuvix. Tuvix, meanwhile has developed on his own. He doesn’t want to die and makes that clear. Janeway has the dilemma. She can do nothing, and let Tuvix live, or kill him to bring Tuvok and Neelix back.
Basically, it’s the trolley problem. Do nothing, and 2 people die, or kill 1 yourself, to save them.
What I don’t get is why they didn’t do some technofoolery with the transporters to make a copy of Tuvix and then just split that one. In a universe where there’s two William Rikers there’s gotta be a way to use transporters to clone.
You kinda have to accept the bounds of the problem as stated in order for it to be worth thinking about. It undercuts the value of the experiment if you just say “I find a solution other than those presented which denied the central conflict entirely”.
Yes it’s called being an engineer
O’Brien could probably do it if you give him a couple hours
O’Brien, you’ve got 15 minutes!
There’s not supposed to be. Every time a transporter clone happens it’s due to external and uncontrollable factors.
Moriarty was an accident but then The Doctor was on purpose.
Not really. The Doctor wasn’t really as advanced as chat gpt. Just an emergency tool. Voyager was stranded without a doctor so they used it full time and he grew sentience along the way.
They were out of chronotons.
My personal headcanon is that they would have had they had the full resources of Starfleet at their disposal. The Riker incident was, as far as we know, non-reproducible, or someone somewhere would have found a way to weaponize it.
Terrible idea. Any time a transporter duplicates somebody, one of them turns evil. (See the DS9 episode where Tom Riker pretends to be Will Riker and hijacks the Defiant, or the reason Harry Kim, who was replaced by his own duplicate early on in the series, never got a promotion).
So now you have to decide to kill Good Tuvix, or kill the other one, which will just give you Evil Tuvok and Evil Neelix.
Could you please resolve the question for people that did not watch star trek. What did she do?
Let’s just say Tuvix is only in one episode
They set him loose on a nice farm in upstate Vidia?
Yes, where there’s lots of other merged people to play with and space to run around
It’s good to know he’ll keep human BElanna, Dr Ira Graves, and Transporter accident Riker company
Undid the process and restored Neelix and Tuvok, thereby killing Tuvix.
Tuvok and Neelix were individuals but merged into one being, Tuvix. Tuvix had the knowledge and memories of both individuals but existed in one body. One mind. He knew everything the other two did but had his own opinions and reasonings and individuality. The Doctor onboard attempts to find a fix but is unable. He promises to find a solution.
A couple of weeks pass and Tuvix has taken over the duties of both Tuvok and Neelix. He’s developing some friendships and relationships. He’s even more effective in certain situations than his counterpart would have been due to the unique perspective he has. He’s settled in. Then the Doctor informs Captain Janeway and Tuvix that he’s discovered a solution and a way to split Tuvix back into Tuvok and Neelix. Everyone is on board except Tuvix who announces he doesn’t want to die after gaining his own identity.
Janeway is forced into a horrible position. She wants her friends back but also she wants to respect this lifeform and unique person. She hears from Tuvix and other crew members on what their opinion is. Tuvix obviously is against it. Heavily. Kes, Neelix’s girlfriend, desperately wants Neelix back. Tuvok also happens to be Janeways close advisor and close personal friend. After some time, Janeway comes out and asks Tuvix to come with her to sickbay. She is ordering that he undergo the procedure.
Tuvix immediately rebels and starts pleading for his life from various crew members on the bridge. All ignore him and look away. He then attempts to run away but Security officers stop him. Janeway leads him to Sick Bay where he continues to plead for his life. The Doctor, aware of Tuvix refusal to undergo the procedure, also refuses to do the procedure. However the procedure is relatively simple to perform. Tuvix is sat down on a bed and split back into Tuvok and Neelix. Janeway welcomes the men back and then leaves Sick Bay with a look of self doubt and horror on her face, deeply shaken.
Here’s the scene. It’s a little edited but you see the broadstrokes.
I love this conversation
Janeway is a blood-crazed necromancer who obviously lept at the opportunity to kill someone to bring two people back
Good thing they had an organ printer otherwise she’d be chopping people up for their kidneys
I’ve been watching Voyager for the first time and just got to the episode. I think I agree with the decision (as a lever-puller) but it does raise some interesting questions. As Janeway mentions, if they’d been able to do it immediately, she’d have done it without question, but after two weeks of Tuvix integrating with the crew it’s a more difficult question. If Tuvix had been around for say 5 years I think I’d disagree with separating him. I think the way I look at it is that the social bonds possessed by Tuvok and Neelix are more important than the mere two week old bonds of Tuvix, but if Tuvok and Neelix were long dead and their loved ones had already mourned them, while Tuvix had had more time to become a fixture in people’s lives, then the circumstances would be different. Tbh I disagree with the idea that Tuvok and Neelix get the biggest say - I think that the input of Kes and the rest of the crew is valuable, and Kes pleads to get Neelix back while none of the crew back Tuvix.
Does that mean the worth of lives is based on popularity? Not generally, but I do think that social connections are a relevant thing to consider. Part of what makes murder bad is not just the loss of the individual’s life, but also what it means for everyone else. If you could press a button to create a life then press another to end it, would you have made the world a worse place by doing so? I don’t think so. But if you press a button to create a life then go out and murder someone who already existed, then I think you have.
I’d also say that the captain’s responsibilities in her role as captain are relevant and also support the decision.
