• John_McMurray@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I mean, fuck, I own a bar and need a pickup truck simply because how else am I gonna return 250 empty cases of beer to recycling? I ain’t putting that smell in an enclosed van and if I got an open trailer, I’d need a truck to tow it anyways. (I actually do have a van, I use it in winter and rainy days for picking up full beer cases, doesn’t have near the weight capacity of the truck although using the same motor and getting similar mileage)

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      3 months ago

      Okay…so you need a truck to haul beer cans. What’s wrong with the simple low-profile one for that job?

      The criticism is on freak hybrid SUV-trucks.

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        Do you know how much 250 empty cases of 24 bottles weighs? Its a lot more than the little one can hold. I had to construct 2x4 stake panels up to the height of the roof as it was with a full size long bed, in order to avoid making 3 trips (twenty miles to the depot), and it would take five with that little truck that can’t even hit highway speed. It also can’t tow my fifth wheel camper. (From 1983, before I get the rich person problems accusation. I ain’t rich, I’m rural and handy enough buy old shit cheap)

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      3 months ago

      I’d need a truck to tow it anyways.

      Common misconception, but you do not, and a folding trailer hooked up to a car with a tow rating capable of pulling it takes up much less overall space when it’s folded up than the truck will most of the time. You’ll also probably get better gas mileage, which is a bonus, plus better pedestrian safety, less force going into a car crash which collectively makes everyone on the road safer, and makes it safer to crash into stationary objects, decreased roadwear, things of this nature. This sort of trailer setup is done all the time in europe, as another comment concurs.

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        I’m not putting 3000 lbs of beer bottles on a trailer behind a (modern) car. It’s borderline unsafe and over car capacity. You’re talking to a CDL holder, I do know s thing or two about pulling trailers. Cars domt have full frames anymore, that’s only one of the many reasons this bad idea

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          3 months ago

          3000 lbs is well within the towing capacity of a VW Golf with a braked trailer. Not to mention a van.

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            3 months ago

            LOL. I just looked up tongue weight max on a golf. 300 pounds. They’re literally useless and dangerous for towing anything over 1000lbs.

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              3 months ago

              All those Europeans towing with their small cars must just be my imagination then.

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                Seems like it. Or maybe you’ve no sense of scale, don’t know what you’re looking at. Max tongue weight like that, a person would nearly have to balance 3000 lbs on the trailer axle, 1800 front, 1200 rear or so. Recipe for a whipping trailer.

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            3 months ago

            Said three thousand pound load, that does not include the trailer. Gross weights gonna be 4500, 5000 ish. Vans are generally pickup truck drivelines this continent, so no real difference there for mileage.

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              3 months ago

              No difference in mileage, maybe. Certainly a huge difference in danger to pedestrians and cyclists.

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      3 months ago

      Nope sorry, you actually don’t exist. OP says it’s impossible for someone to need a truck.

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      So without the pickup truck, you’d still be able to do it with an alternative.