• Lightor@lemmy.world
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    It’s not privileged at all lol, you’re just wrong.

    Someone can put their elbows on the table while eating and offend someone. That person is hurting no one. The fact that it offends someone doesn’t make it damaging. Stop acting like being offended in and of itself means anything. Either that or explain to me the real harm of it. Or any other stupid little thing that can offend someone, like taking the lords name in vain or wearing white after labor day to a party. These are BS nonsensical things that people get offended by and you’re trying to act like they cause real harm. Get out of here with that pure nonsense.

    Who chooses to feel offended? No one, but you chose your world view and that dictates if you will be offended.

    Bottom line, you said “the fact of someone being offended is inextricably linked to the fact of it being damaging”. Explain to me how putting your elbows on the table while eating is damaging. Who is it harming?

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      Nobody has the right to not be offended.

      If we gave people that right, everything in civilization would grind to a halt.

      Choosing whether or not to offend a small number of people for the sake of expressing something is an individual decision.

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      It’s not harming anyone, and that person is just being an asshole. They are linked, yes, but not always directly correlated. Some people just be crazy.

      This whole time I’ve been talking about bigotry, and I’ve been consistent on that. These little kooky “Don’t put your elbows on the table” level stuff in my own opinion is not a genuine form of offence, it’s an enforcement of conformity and tradition. “Offending” tradition is its own can of worms. If you ask me, before we consider if offending a tradition is something actually bigoted and offensive, we must first consider if that tradition might actually be batshit insane.

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        They’re inextricably linked but not correlated, that makes no sense.

        You said being offended causes harm, I said it doesn’t, there were no classifiers. Someone being offended by something stupid doesn’t make them any less offended, they still are. I would argue a lot of people who are offended are because they see some form of tradition or cultural norm they value being upset. Whether that norm is them wanting to be racist or wanting you to eat a certain way.

        My point is, people can get offended by literally anything, and I’d say 9/10 times it’s not damaging and they’re just being professional victims. Yes there are racists and horrible people, and the things they do are damaging. That’s why I care, because it’s damaging, not because it offends someone.

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          I don’t think you realise you’re agreeing with me, lol

          Yes, garm and offence are linked, butthat doesn’t mean every ofdence was caused by harm

          I didn’t say offence causes harm. I said harm causes offence.

          And “professional victim” tells me you’re just not taking this issue seriously.