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return2ozma@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

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return2ozma@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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    You could have saved yourself some typing and just written “I’m selfish and wilfully ignorant”

    First - educate yourself on communism, you clearly know nothing about it, but the fact that you’re against it because “bloodshed” yet are openly in support of capitalism makes you nothing more than a wilfully ignorant hypocrite.

    Capitalism has and continues to kill hundreds of millions (at least, in all the time it’s existed) for profit in war, with hunger and restricted access to water, with homelessness and poverty, with preventable disease, all created and excused with the myth of artificial scarcity, with climate change, with immoral laws and entire systems designed to keep large segments of the population as slave labour, which is what they used to gain their power and wealth to be in the position to impose all of this in the first place. And all that just off the top of my head, there is so much more violence that is inflicted on us daily, they’ve just got most people, yourself included obviously, convinced that’s just life, when it really really isn’t. And those who actually benefit are never just going to give all of that up.

    You keep mentioning the potential “sacrifice” which tells me just how privileged you are, but don’t be mistaken - that privilege will only keep you safe for so long, and you not giving a shit about those of us who don’t have it and are already suffering and dying under the system you’re so eager to defend despite openly admitting to not understanding it (and displaying no understating of the alternative either), doesn’t change the fact that said system is destroying the planet and everything on it, and no amount of bootlicking will save you from that.

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      First - educate yourself on communism

      Wow, this is such a shit 😀 So everyone got it wrong, that’s why it failed everywhere.

      But you know what, go for it. It fucked up my country but I’m sure this time it’s gonna be different, this time you get it right 🙂 I just grab my popcorn and enjoy the show

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        Many many capitalist societies have failed, but we let survivorship bias cloud our judgement.

        We’ve only really attempted communism a couple of times.

        Heck, all of the communist societies were built from the ashes of capitalist ones.

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          Heck, all of the communist societies were built from the ashes of capitalist ones.

          I mean, Soviet Russia and China were really built on the bones of feudal societies, and that’s something that Marx warned against.

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      Saving this liberal-killer comment

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        Go for it.

        I have loads more links saved, but these come in handy most often:

        https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/

        https://blacklikemao.medium.com/how-liberalism-helps-fascism-d4dbdcb199d9 I wonder what excuse they’ll use next to make sure they don’t have to read anything that might challenge their bias.

        https://truthout.org/articles/fascism-is-possible-not-in-spite-of-liberal-capitalism-but-because-of-it/

        https://nyanarchist.wordpress.com/2019/01/23/scratch-a-liberal-a-fascist-bleeds-how-the-so-called-middle-class-has-enabled-oppression-for-centuries/

        https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/22/american-democracy-was-never-designed-to-be-democratic-eric-holder-our-unfinished-march-nick-seabrook-one-person-one-vote-jacob-grumbach-laboratories-against-democracy

        https://libcom.org/article/capitalist-democracy-illusion-choice

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          Thank you very kindly. These will come in useful for future arguments against libs and reactionaries.

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            Linking a site titled “blacklikemao.com” will not win you any arguments and will get you laughed at

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              Maybe by people like you, but that doesn’t concern me.

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                I would be the person you’d be arguing with, so yes.

                Do not use those links because rather than be “lib-killing” they are “lib-amusing”

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                  I don’t care to try to educate people who don’t care to listen.

                  So, no, I wouldn’t be arguing with you.

                  Also, your attitude doesn’t exactly scream “liberal”, to me. It screams “reactionary”. Because you are describing a reactionary mindset.

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                    Lol

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                    Then why haven’t you shut up?

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